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Not if you want a meaningful result. There are strong correlations between having a gun in the house and increased suicide rates. Yes, I get it, it's a correlat
by yodon 9y ago
Not if you want a meaningful result. There are strong correlations between having a gun in the house and increased suicide rates. Yes, I get it, it's a correlation. The point is it's a gross oversimplification to just say "subtract suicides."
- qaq 9y agoMeaningful is very abstract term. The problem is people wanting to commit suicide not the tool they are using. There is a way stronger correlation of people being unemployed and committing suicide for example.
- yodon 9y agoThat may be true, but it remains a gross oversimplification to say "subtract suicides"
- egwynn 9y agoNot to get into the weeds too much here, but a completed suicide has a lot to do with the speed/effectiveness of the tool in question. Almost nothing is as fast/effective for this as a gun. Plus, suicide is frequently attempted impulsively, during a time of emotional crisis, so adding logistical barriers is a very effective reduction technique.
- qaq 9y ago"Almost nothing is as fast/effective for this as a gun" drugs ? especially considering it requires far less will power to take a few pills vs to pull a trigger?
- egwynn 9y agoAccording to http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2195005 http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2... Suicide attempts using a firearm result in death 86% of the time; ingestion of drugs or poisons with the intent to commit suicide is successful less than 2% of the time.