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Hey man, Jack's been putting in 23 hour days for the last seven years to make this happen. Not cool to mock his effort. But seriously that Tweet shows the usef

Hey man, Jack's been putting in 23 hour days for the last seven years to make this happen. Not cool to mock his effort. But seriously that Tweet shows the usefulness. For them not to have tried it until now shows how scared they are to make any real changes. 1) Guess 2) this 3) doesn't 4) fix 5) this 6) nonsense? Those comments are absolute youtube quality cancer though. Goddamn tragedy that this is the pinnacle of human discourse right now. These are the first five replies to that tweet: Near deGrasse Tyson‏ @DrNeilTyson 1h1 hour ago Replying to @jack I will reserve my full response until I get 280 characters but this is a slap in the face to everyone harmed by your lax governance 1 reply 15 retweets 109 likes Near deGrasse Tyson‏ @DrNeilTyson 57m57 minutes ago Your platform has been co-opted and manipulated, turned into a megaphone for hate and propaganda. 3 replies 20 retweets 154 likes Near deGrasse Tyson‏ @DrNeilTyson 56m56 minutes ago Your response? Remove the last filter forcing careful selection of words. This makes Twitter boring without making room for real thought. 4 replies 14 retweets 107 likes Near deGrasse Tyson‏ @DrNeilTyson 55m55 minutes ago And yet again, another surface-level tweak that fails to deal with the rot inside this community. 1 reply 10 retweets 82 likes Near deGrasse Tyson‏ @DrNeilTyson 54m54 minutes ago You have failed signally in your responsibilities to your users, investors, and frankly to all of humanity. Thanks, Jack. What a weird platform.

leeoniya 9y ago
https://twitter.com/badastronomer/status/747503673882746880?lang=en https://twitter.com/badastronomer/status/747503673882746880?...
- aaron-lebo 9y ago
  Yeah, it's a parody, but why after a decade has Twitter not figured out a way to avoid giving the trolliest of trolls such exposure? It seems like 140, 200, 280, or 500 chars is the smallest and least of their problems.
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    For whatever reason, they do not look into impersonation reports at all. Their team is too focused on deciding the content of people's speech that it doesn't care about their actions.
    - tagawa 9y ago
      For what it’s worth, they acted quite quickly when I filed a company impersonation claim.
    - astronautjones 9y ago
      they don't look into racist posts at all, either. I've only reported like 10 posts (that had overtly racist messages and calls to violence in 5 cases) and I was quickly informed that they were fine (despite their TOS). It really seems like the management has a bigoted bent.
    - Pxtl 9y ago
      They let David freaking Duke onto their platform, I think you can't accuse them of being censors beyond blocking active threats and harrassment.
theDoug 9y ago
This must be the backup plan when turning “Favorite” stars into “Like” hearts wasn't enough to have the world exist in harmony.
Nightshaxx 9y ago
"Your platform has been co-opted and manipulated, turned into a megaphone for hate and propaganda." Yet here you are using it..... Why do people really think that x or y company is to blame for minority opinions getting so much traction on the internet. The very definition of public speaking/communication is that it gives small individuals big voices, no matter how big or small of a following they have. They cannot be stopped from expressing their opinions unless a. The platform they use is tyrannical (picks and chooses the ideas it likes or doesn't like) or b. Is actively committing a crime ( excessive cyber harassment and doxing). If Twitter wanted to actually fight "hate and propeganda" you would grow to hate the platform! How long untill your ideas are silenced?? I get that the Nazi and white supremacist propaganda is right at the line, but make no mistake, untill they commit acts of violence ( which of course, they have. These instances should be punished) _it is merely an opinion and does no more damage than your opinion._ If you wine about how they shouldn't have a voice, you are wasting your breath (although you have the right to do so). With the internet there are so many ways to propagate information that the Nazis and white supremacists will find a way to get their message out. Fight ideas with ideas, not censorship.
- sprafa 9y ago
  You can get so close to that line without crossing it though, plus policing 300 million users is hard enough. The problem is that both extreme fascism and communism might actually be a very tempting response to everyday problems to a lot of people, which means that the only reason we haven't had issues with either ideology is we had a media who complied with the censorship of both those viewpoints. Online anyone can say anything and promote anything, which means people who have problems that aren't being solved by their current leaders can easily turn to ideologies which we had all previously agreed to censor out of normal discourse.
baby 9y ago
You should probably edit or delete your comment. It reads like FUD against neil degrasse tyson
- aaron-lebo 9y ago
  HN users should have reading comprehension.
whywhywhywhy 9y ago
Worst thing Twitter ever did was teach you what people you once respected are really like. Can't believe I ever looked up to him.
- saganus 9y ago
  I believe the name says "Near" instead of "Neil", so probably not the real guy. I don't see how the real NDT would benefit from such bad-PR comments.
- schoen 9y ago
  As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, that is a parody account, not actually Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
- dahart 9y ago
  O ye of little faith. Those tweeks are fake, the Neil is still awesome.
always_good 9y ago
>Your response? Remove the last filter forcing careful selection of words. This makes Twitter boring without making room for real thought. Ehhh, one of the reasons Twitter is useless for actual conversation is that you can't express a thought. You only have just enough room to say something that you can't flesh out such that you can enrage other people. Twitter is built on anger and misunderstanding, interpreting 140 chars least charitably as possible. Then someone tries to organize their thoughts into a tweet storm, but there's no real way to respond to it without more small bite-sized misunderstood/misunderstanding comments. Increasing the limit is a good thing in this regard. That the 140 char limit forced people to "choose the best words" is laughable.
kemerover 9y ago
It is a parody account.
- aaron-lebo 9y ago
  Never implied otherwise. My point was that the CEO's post announcing such a feature has multiple garbage comments from the same individual at the very top. That it's a parody account just makes it worse.
omegaworks 9y ago
A vocal contingent think that Twitter shouldn't allow one of its users to initiate nuclear war using the platform.

leeoniya 9y ago

https://twitter.com/badastronomer/status/747503673882746880?lang=en https://twitter.com/badastronomer/status/747503673882746880?...

aaron-lebo 9y ago
Yeah, it's a parody, but why after a decade has Twitter not figured out a way to avoid giving the trolliest of trolls such exposure? It seems like 140, 200, 280, or 500 chars is the smallest and least of their problems.
- microcolonel 9y ago
  For whatever reason, they do not look into impersonation reports at all. Their team is too focused on deciding the content of people's speech that it doesn't care about their actions.
  - tagawa 9y ago
    For what it’s worth, they acted quite quickly when I filed a company impersonation claim.
  - astronautjones 9y ago
    they don't look into racist posts at all, either. I've only reported like 10 posts (that had overtly racist messages and calls to violence in 5 cases) and I was quickly informed that they were fine (despite their TOS). It really seems like the management has a bigoted bent.
  - Pxtl 9y ago
    They let David freaking Duke onto their platform, I think you can't accuse them of being censors beyond blocking active threats and harrassment.

theDoug 9y ago

This must be the backup plan when turning “Favorite” stars into “Like” hearts wasn't enough to have the world exist in harmony.

Nightshaxx 9y ago

"Your platform has been co-opted and manipulated, turned into a megaphone for hate and propaganda." Yet here you are using it..... Why do people really think that x or y company is to blame for minority opinions getting so much traction on the internet. The very definition of public speaking/communication is that it gives small individuals big voices, no matter how big or small of a following they have. They cannot be stopped from expressing their opinions unless a. The platform they use is tyrannical (picks and chooses the ideas it likes or doesn't like) or b. Is actively committing a crime ( excessive cyber harassment and doxing). If Twitter wanted to actually fight "hate and propeganda" you would grow to hate the platform! How long untill your ideas are silenced?? I get that the Nazi and white supremacist propaganda is right at the line, but make no mistake, untill they commit acts of violence ( which of course, they have. These instances should be punished) _it is merely an opinion and does no more damage than your opinion._ If you wine about how they shouldn't have a voice, you are wasting your breath (although you have the right to do so). With the internet there are so many ways to propagate information that the Nazis and white supremacists will find a way to get their message out. Fight ideas with ideas, not censorship.

sprafa 9y ago
You can get so close to that line without crossing it though, plus policing 300 million users is hard enough. The problem is that both extreme fascism and communism might actually be a very tempting response to everyday problems to a lot of people, which means that the only reason we haven't had issues with either ideology is we had a media who complied with the censorship of both those viewpoints. Online anyone can say anything and promote anything, which means people who have problems that aren't being solved by their current leaders can easily turn to ideologies which we had all previously agreed to censor out of normal discourse.

baby 9y ago

You should probably edit or delete your comment. It reads like FUD against neil degrasse tyson

aaron-lebo 9y ago
HN users should have reading comprehension.

whywhywhywhy 9y ago

Worst thing Twitter ever did was teach you what people you once respected are really like. Can't believe I ever looked up to him.

saganus 9y ago
I believe the name says "Near" instead of "Neil", so probably not the real guy. I don't see how the real NDT would benefit from such bad-PR comments.
schoen 9y ago
As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, that is a parody account, not actually Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
dahart 9y ago
O ye of little faith. Those tweeks are fake, the Neil is still awesome.

always_good 9y ago

>Your response? Remove the last filter forcing careful selection of words. This makes Twitter boring without making room for real thought. Ehhh, one of the reasons Twitter is useless for actual conversation is that you can't express a thought. You only have just enough room to say something that you can't flesh out such that you can enrage other people. Twitter is built on anger and misunderstanding, interpreting 140 chars least charitably as possible. Then someone tries to organize their thoughts into a tweet storm, but there's no real way to respond to it without more small bite-sized misunderstood/misunderstanding comments. Increasing the limit is a good thing in this regard. That the 140 char limit forced people to "choose the best words" is laughable.

kemerover 9y ago

It is a parody account.

aaron-lebo 9y ago
Never implied otherwise. My point was that the CEO's post announcing such a feature has multiple garbage comments from the same individual at the very top. That it's a parody account just makes it worse.

omegaworks 9y ago

A vocal contingent think that Twitter shouldn't allow one of its users to initiate nuclear war using the platform.