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That's good. This one was the one that most people were complaining about not being possible in webext. Glad to show people that the Firefox team has good inten

That's good. This one was the one that most people were complaining about not being possible in webext. Glad to show people that the Firefox team has good intentions.

syshum 9y ago
>>Glad to show people that the Firefox team has good intentions. That is rich... Giving the FF Team credit and not the Hard work of the Dev to get around all the massive amount of problems and crap the FF Team created for everyone in the pursuit of turning FF into Chrome
- weaksauce 9y ago
  They worked hard to make the popular extensions possible. The dev worked hard to make the extension compatible. All I was saying is that the Firefox team at Mozilla got way too much hate for moving the state of Firefox forward. People were leaving in droves because Firefox was not fast and used a lot of memory and crashed because of addons. Firefox took steps to rectify that and the release of quantum shows that they may actually be faster than chrome. The have made monumental strides in performance and memory use and the webext model has allowed them the aggressive refactoring that made those strides possible.
  - syshum 9y ago
    Yes we are all aware they have choosen performance over Customization and privacy. they have choosen to make a Chrome Clone instead of Supporting the users that stuck with them for decades largely because FF was customizable I could care less about performance, If my PC needs more RAM, I add more RAM, it is Cheap I care about productivity and Customization.
    - weaksauce 9y ago
      well, they are the more privacy oriented browser for 1. performance is a big issue and ram doesn't fix it. processors aren't getting much faster... they are getting more parallelized but not much faster. The move to webext was a way to allow for firefox to iterate faster toward a more performant browser with the tools in place to allow for customization and experimentation for new extension APIs(look at webext experiments[0]). If it's a worthwhile feature you can add it in and they can see that it works and then they can merge the experiment into firefox mainland. it's more work but results in a more performant, stable, privacy oriented browser. 0. see the one for better keyboard support to enable vimperator style extensions.
      - syshum 9y ago
        Yea the Commercial Proprietary Pocket integration, EME, and various other Mozilla choices really fill me with confidence that they care about privacy, Personally I would not be shocked if FF was a Closed Source Browser filled with google analytics by Version 60 at the rate they are going that if MS does not simply buy out Mozilla First
        weaksauce 9y ago
        > Commercial Proprietary Pocket integration that isn't used to track you unless you opt in to it. > EME So? I am failing to see what encrypted media enhancements has to do with privacy. They were getting some serious flak for not being able to watch drm protected content. That sounds like some serious hyperbole. I have seen how mozilla does what they do and they are very vigilant about privacy protections and how user data is collected and aggregated. At the end of the day you are free to use a different browser if you think it's going that poorly.
        syshum 9y ago
        Sure I am free to use something, I am also free to criticize Mozilla for ruining the last good Open Source Web Browser buy turning into just another Commercial Browser akin to Chrome or Edge.
        weaksauce 9y ago
        Your reply is about the smallest part of my comment, but ok.
Manishearth 9y ago
A lot of the confusion around webextensions is that while 57 may not support a lot of important use cases, the door is always open for new webext APIs, which is what's been happening so far, and will continue to happen, making more and more such extensions possible again.

That's good. This one was the one that most people were complaining about not being possible in webext. Glad to show people that the Firefox team has good intentions.

syshum 9y ago

>>Glad to show people that the Firefox team has good intentions. That is rich... Giving the FF Team credit and not the Hard work of the Dev to get around all the massive amount of problems and crap the FF Team created for everyone in the pursuit of turning FF into Chrome

weaksauce 9y ago
They worked hard to make the popular extensions possible. The dev worked hard to make the extension compatible. All I was saying is that the Firefox team at Mozilla got way too much hate for moving the state of Firefox forward. People were leaving in droves because Firefox was not fast and used a lot of memory and crashed because of addons. Firefox took steps to rectify that and the release of quantum shows that they may actually be faster than chrome. The have made monumental strides in performance and memory use and the webext model has allowed them the aggressive refactoring that made those strides possible.
- syshum 9y ago
  Yes we are all aware they have choosen performance over Customization and privacy. they have choosen to make a Chrome Clone instead of Supporting the users that stuck with them for decades largely because FF was customizable I could care less about performance, If my PC needs more RAM, I add more RAM, it is Cheap I care about productivity and Customization.
  - weaksauce 9y ago
    well, they are the more privacy oriented browser for 1. performance is a big issue and ram doesn't fix it. processors aren't getting much faster... they are getting more parallelized but not much faster. The move to webext was a way to allow for firefox to iterate faster toward a more performant browser with the tools in place to allow for customization and experimentation for new extension APIs(look at webext experiments[0]). If it's a worthwhile feature you can add it in and they can see that it works and then they can merge the experiment into firefox mainland. it's more work but results in a more performant, stable, privacy oriented browser. 0. see the one for better keyboard support to enable vimperator style extensions.
    - syshum 9y ago
      Yea the Commercial Proprietary Pocket integration, EME, and various other Mozilla choices really fill me with confidence that they care about privacy, Personally I would not be shocked if FF was a Closed Source Browser filled with google analytics by Version 60 at the rate they are going that if MS does not simply buy out Mozilla First
      - weaksauce 9y ago
        > Commercial Proprietary Pocket integration that isn't used to track you unless you opt in to it. > EME So? I am failing to see what encrypted media enhancements has to do with privacy. They were getting some serious flak for not being able to watch drm protected content. That sounds like some serious hyperbole. I have seen how mozilla does what they do and they are very vigilant about privacy protections and how user data is collected and aggregated. At the end of the day you are free to use a different browser if you think it's going that poorly.
        syshum 9y ago
        Sure I am free to use something, I am also free to criticize Mozilla for ruining the last good Open Source Web Browser buy turning into just another Commercial Browser akin to Chrome or Edge.
        weaksauce 9y ago
        Your reply is about the smallest part of my comment, but ok.

Manishearth 9y ago

A lot of the confusion around webextensions is that while 57 may not support a lot of important use cases, the door is always open for new webext APIs, which is what's been happening so far, and will continue to happen, making more and more such extensions possible again.