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Ok, I think that FB will comply. They did a lot to be present in China, so they will do same here. But I have one simple question: Should be data of Crimean us
by slezyr 9y ago
Ok, I think that FB will comply. They did a lot to be present in China, so they will do same here.
But I have one simple question: Should be data of Crimean users stored in Russian or not?
- Strom 9y agoOne way to soften the political blow of that question would be to store Crimean user data in Crimea.
- leggomylibro 9y agoLet's go one step further, and store data about individuals in their own homes.
- gotts 9y agolol
- vkou 9y agoGiven that Crimea is now part of Russia, this would mean storing it in Russia.
- Strom 9y agoThere are Russian forces in Crimea sure, but so are US forces in South Korea, or in Afghanistan if you prefer active combat. Doesn't mean they're US territories. Most countries see Crimea as part of Ukraine. [1] -- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_68/262 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembl...
- Demiurge 9y agoWhat do the people of South Korea, Afghanistan, and Crimea think?
- anticodon 9y agoThere're millions of people living in all these places and it's a typical mistake to think that they have the same uniform opinion. You can take any subset from the population and create an illusion that they all support or reject something, like US forces presence. I see this in news every time I open them or watch TV.
- int_19h 9y agoAs far as Crimea, it's difficult to say precisely. They had a referendum in 2014, but that was then, and it was hardly an open and transparent one (armed Russian soldiers occupying the entire peninsula, no international observers admitted). Ideally, we'd need to hold a new fair referendum to find out. The problem is that even talking about holding one is in violation of the Russian laws on separatism, punishable by up to 5 years in jail. Conveniently, the corresponding bill was signed into law at the end of 2013, shortly before Crimea was annexed. And yes, people have actually been jailed over this. (Having said that, if there actually was such a fair referendum, I would bet on them staying in Russia. But the percentages would probably be lower than last time.)
- slezyr 9y agoNeither EU or US think so, and might to hit FB with sanctions.
- kbart 9y ago"Given that Crimea is now part of Russia" Only according to Russia and its friends. In the eyes of international community it's disputed territory at best or occupied part of Ukraine for most.
- kahnpro 9y agoThe eyes of the international community don't matter a whole lot here when it's the Russian police who will come knocking on the door with(out) a warrant.
- smueller1234 9y agoAnd to add one to your simple question: What if you run a service where you don't know where users are from? (Facebook knows a lot! It's a terrible example in this context.) The best answer we got from the lawyers was "geo-ip". Alas, given that it has both plenty of false-positives and false-negatives (and people travel), it might as well mean violating privacy laws in both Russia and whichever-other-country. Good times were had.
- anticodon 9y agoI believe facebook banned users from Crimea. So is Google and other US corporations.
- slezyr 9y agoAll Crimean traffic now has Russian IPs.
- amaks 9y agoYeah, next logical step is for Zuckerberg to learn Russian and ask Putin to name his next child.