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I'm not sure your metaphor works, even as a description of the current state of affairs. I can send my possessions anywhere I want, and I'm not limited in where

I'm not sure your metaphor works, even as a description of the current state of affairs. I can send my possessions anywhere I want, and I'm not limited in where I keep my possessions. We don't generally place bans on moving legal possessions.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
I don't know if I agree. There are import and export restrictions and most countries require you declare on a customs form the contents of packages shipped outside of the country. When you travel, you're expected to bring anything you take with you back, and declare anything you bring in that you didn't take out. In addition, from a more realistic/practical scenario, most physical possessions are not useful outside of your legal jurisdiction in that you cannot easily use them yourself. And there's a significant issue with digital assets (as with money, in fact), that large companies shift them over international borders in order to evade the law, that simply doesn't exist in the physical possession space. For example, I believe it's been accused that some tech companies shift user data overseas explicitly so that they can then deny fulfilling legal warrants on the grounds the data is not stored in the same country, or any number of tax evasion schemes designed to store and transfer money through countries with favorable tax laws.
- int_19h 9y ago
  Sorry, but that makes no sense at all. I have packed all my things - truckloads of them - and moved to a different country several times in my life. It was never an issue, legally speaking. Yet, because I am still a Russian citizen, this law effectively requires Facebook to store my personal data on Russian servers. Including such data that has been generated in the last several years of me living elsewhere (which is, in fact, all of it - I didn't even have an FB account until I moved). How does this make any sense?

ocdtrekkie 9y ago

I don't know if I agree. There are import and export restrictions and most countries require you declare on a customs form the contents of packages shipped outside of the country. When you travel, you're expected to bring anything you take with you back, and declare anything you bring in that you didn't take out. In addition, from a more realistic/practical scenario, most physical possessions are not useful outside of your legal jurisdiction in that you cannot easily use them yourself. And there's a significant issue with digital assets (as with money, in fact), that large companies shift them over international borders in order to evade the law, that simply doesn't exist in the physical possession space. For example, I believe it's been accused that some tech companies shift user data overseas explicitly so that they can then deny fulfilling legal warrants on the grounds the data is not stored in the same country, or any number of tax evasion schemes designed to store and transfer money through countries with favorable tax laws.

int_19h 9y ago
Sorry, but that makes no sense at all. I have packed all my things - truckloads of them - and moved to a different country several times in my life. It was never an issue, legally speaking. Yet, because I am still a Russian citizen, this law effectively requires Facebook to store my personal data on Russian servers. Including such data that has been generated in the last several years of me living elsewhere (which is, in fact, all of it - I didn't even have an FB account until I moved). How does this make any sense?