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> it is because of exceptionally inefficient use of the lanes No, it's because the customer is installing the cards they want to use, and those cards are consu

> it is because of exceptionally inefficient use of the lanes No, it's because the customer is installing the cards they want to use, and those cards are consuming PCIe lanes. A system with more PCIe lanes lets the customer install more of whatever they want. The PCIe revision doesn't matter, and neither does the "efficiency" of the cards they're installing. More lanes means the customer can install more of whatever they want/need to install. Sure, you could spend more on a 10GBit card that supports a newer PCIe revision and doesn't use 8 lanes, or just go and buy an AMD system which costs less than Intel and provides 64 PCIe lanes anyway.

CyberDildonics 9y ago
If someone has a USB wifi dongle that takes up 4 USB ports instead of 1, would you say that the they need to get a computer with more USB ports or that they should avoid such an inefficient design if they think a lack of ports will be a problem?
- kogepathic 9y ago
  > USB wifi dongle that takes up 4 USB ports instead of 1, would you say that the they need to get a computer with more USB ports or that they should avoid such an inefficient design if they think a lack of ports will be a problem? You can recommend whatever you want, but at the end of the day the client is going to use what they want to use. I find it's best just to accept that and not argue with the client about how they're doing things wrong. You can of course make a recommendation on how to improve things, but if the client doesn't accept it, move on. You're usually hired for your professional opinion, not to stand around whining about how no one implements your great ideas. If the client decides not to take your professional opinion, then either: 1) accept that they're paying you for your opinion which they're not following (which is their choice, it's their money) 2) quit and find another client who treats you like the demigod you so clearly are My point about AMD providing more PCIe lanes than Intel at a lower price point still stands. The original point of OP was that Intel is not providing more than 40 PCIe lanes on anything but Xeon SKUs: > That and refusing to up the number of directly connected PCI lanes. The latest chips support 40 lanes but some of them are outboard of the CPU and connected via a controller.

CyberDildonics 9y ago

If someone has a USB wifi dongle that takes up 4 USB ports instead of 1, would you say that the they need to get a computer with more USB ports or that they should avoid such an inefficient design if they think a lack of ports will be a problem?

kogepathic 9y ago
> USB wifi dongle that takes up 4 USB ports instead of 1, would you say that the they need to get a computer with more USB ports or that they should avoid such an inefficient design if they think a lack of ports will be a problem? You can recommend whatever you want, but at the end of the day the client is going to use what they want to use. I find it's best just to accept that and not argue with the client about how they're doing things wrong. You can of course make a recommendation on how to improve things, but if the client doesn't accept it, move on. You're usually hired for your professional opinion, not to stand around whining about how no one implements your great ideas. If the client decides not to take your professional opinion, then either: 1) accept that they're paying you for your opinion which they're not following (which is their choice, it's their money) 2) quit and find another client who treats you like the demigod you so clearly are My point about AMD providing more PCIe lanes than Intel at a lower price point still stands. The original point of OP was that Intel is not providing more than 40 PCIe lanes on anything but Xeon SKUs: > That and refusing to up the number of directly connected PCI lanes. The latest chips support 40 lanes but some of them are outboard of the CPU and connected via a controller.