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I've disliked vimeo ever since they claimed videos with video game footage weren't art enough to be posted there. After Stage6 was shut down in 2008, many peopl

by plopz 9y ago

I've disliked vimeo ever since they claimed videos with video game footage weren't art enough to be posted there. After Stage6 was shut down in 2008, many people started to move their content over to vimeo, only to be lost when vimeo made their stance against video games.

ams6110 9y ago
Why dislike them? They've made a business decision to cater specifically to a niche of video producers. It's like complaining that a motorcycle repair shop won't work on your car.
- plopz 9y ago
  Trying to use your analogy I would say its more like taking your harley-davidson to a general motorcycle repair shop who won't work on it because its not a "real" motorcycle.
  - sprafa 9y ago
    They might say that but wouldn't the case be that they're not serving Harley because they can't get the proprietary screwheads for it? In the case of games, the issue might've been IP and fair use. "Not art enough" in IP law means you might not be able to pass a fair use lawsuit for it.
    - plopz 9y ago
      I went back and found their original post[0]. It looks like they changed their stance in 2014 because video games were "no longer an outlier in our community nor a drag on our resources the way it once was". [0] https://vimeo.com/blog/post/new-upload-rules https://vimeo.com/blog/post/new-upload-rules
Spivak 9y ago
Isn't Twitch serving that niche now?
- trevoranderson 9y ago
  As far as I know, you still can't upload video to Twitch: they are focusing on livestreams. You can record your livestream, and then make it available to view, but well edited videos are rare (you'd have to make and edit the video, then stream it, then edit the VOD for length, etc) Edit: found https://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/2577667-video-upload-guide https://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/2577667-vide... which seems to indicate that you can upload video, but it seems to be rare on the platform compared to their bread and butter livestreams.
  - richardknop 9y ago
    True but they store past live streams so you can watch old videos.
- btown 9y ago
  YouTube is still the king of "Let's Play" and edited-walkthrough formats.
  - richardknop 9y ago
    That's true. Although not undisputed. Lots of great let's plays on Twitch. You don't have to watch live content. The video archive has tons of content on Twitch. So you can just go to the archive of your favorite personalities and rewatch their let's plays from months ago.
  - dbbk 9y ago
    They also have a whole focused site for it - YouTube Gaming
    - NTripleOne 9y ago
      I'm honestly surprised that's still going.

by plopz 9y ago

ams6110 9y ago

Why dislike them? They've made a business decision to cater specifically to a niche of video producers. It's like complaining that a motorcycle repair shop won't work on your car.

plopz 9y ago
Trying to use your analogy I would say its more like taking your harley-davidson to a general motorcycle repair shop who won't work on it because its not a "real" motorcycle.
- sprafa 9y ago
  They might say that but wouldn't the case be that they're not serving Harley because they can't get the proprietary screwheads for it? In the case of games, the issue might've been IP and fair use. "Not art enough" in IP law means you might not be able to pass a fair use lawsuit for it.
  - plopz 9y ago
    I went back and found their original post[0]. It looks like they changed their stance in 2014 because video games were "no longer an outlier in our community nor a drag on our resources the way it once was". [0] https://vimeo.com/blog/post/new-upload-rules https://vimeo.com/blog/post/new-upload-rules

Spivak 9y ago

Isn't Twitch serving that niche now?

trevoranderson 9y ago
As far as I know, you still can't upload video to Twitch: they are focusing on livestreams. You can record your livestream, and then make it available to view, but well edited videos are rare (you'd have to make and edit the video, then stream it, then edit the VOD for length, etc) Edit: found https://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/2577667-video-upload-guide https://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/2577667-vide... which seems to indicate that you can upload video, but it seems to be rare on the platform compared to their bread and butter livestreams.
- richardknop 9y ago
  True but they store past live streams so you can watch old videos.
btown 9y ago
YouTube is still the king of "Let's Play" and edited-walkthrough formats.
- richardknop 9y ago
  That's true. Although not undisputed. Lots of great let's plays on Twitch. You don't have to watch live content. The video archive has tons of content on Twitch. So you can just go to the archive of your favorite personalities and rewatch their let's plays from months ago.
- dbbk 9y ago
  They also have a whole focused site for it - YouTube Gaming
  - NTripleOne 9y ago
    I'm honestly surprised that's still going.