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They shouldn't be exempt. But there's no reason for cab divers to have '35 hours of training' - the reg should be off the books. What on earth are they traine

They shouldn't be exempt. But there's no reason for cab divers to have '35 hours of training' - the reg should be off the books. What on earth are they trained for? Maybe 'back in the day' knowing the city by memory was an issue - it's certainly not today. Has the city of Mtl been receiving complaints that 'Uber drivers are getting lost?' Not only do I feel that most consumers would give Uber a 'better service rating' (despite their 'lack of training') - but consumers have tech that enables them: Maps. Estimates. Automatic payments etc.. When it comes to issues such as 'identity' 'insurance' etc. - there's no question Uber has to be on par: cars need to be driven by registered folks, there needs to be clean insurance, safety checks on the car etc. etc.. To speak of this as 'about training' I think misses the point that this is entirely political: medallion owners want to keep the value of their medallions up, and have used a 'legal' and 'populist' angle to protect their medallion-oligarchy. That's what's going on. I don't believe there have been significant complaints bout Uber indicating that '35 hours of training' simply is not a requirement. And FYI - you don't need any training to open a store and offer a service - if people don't like the merchandise or quality of service they go elsewhere - that model works well. If people thought Uber was crap, they wouldn't use it. There are possibly 'issues' with Uber, but this is not one of them.

s73ver_ 9y ago
The problem is, Uber is lobbying for it's drivers to be exempt. Not lobbying for the regulation to be dropped altogether. "To speak of this as 'about training' I think misses the point that this is entirely political: medallion owners want to keep the value of their medallions up, and have used a 'legal' and 'populist' angle to protect their medallion-oligarchy. That's what's going on." I completely disagree. Uber right now has an advantage in that they don't require their drivers to undergo the training. Their competitors are required to. So I see absolutely nothing wrong with those competitors complaining that Uber gets an unfair advantage. "And FYI - you don't need any training to open a store and offer a service - if people don't like the merchandise or quality of service they go elsewhere - that model works well. If people thought Uber was crap, they wouldn't use it." A store is HUGELY different than a transportation service.
DanBC 9y ago
They need training to remind them they must not refuse service to wheelchair users or service dogs. > And FYI - you don't need any training to open a store and offer a service Depends what you're selling. A bunch of stuff is regulated (guns; alcohol; food) and you'll need to obey those regulations. You'll also need to obey all the other regulations around fire safety etc.
- alexasmyths 9y ago
  "They need training to remind them they must not refuse service to wheelchair users or service dogs." Nobody needs training for that. They're regs and laws like any other. If you have concerns, you can make them 'pass a test' or whatever they can study on their own time.
  - s73ver_ 9y ago
    "Nobody needs training for that." Uber themselves make a very good case that they do.

s73ver_ 9y ago

The problem is, Uber is lobbying for it's drivers to be exempt. Not lobbying for the regulation to be dropped altogether. "To speak of this as 'about training' I think misses the point that this is entirely political: medallion owners want to keep the value of their medallions up, and have used a 'legal' and 'populist' angle to protect their medallion-oligarchy. That's what's going on." I completely disagree. Uber right now has an advantage in that they don't require their drivers to undergo the training. Their competitors are required to. So I see absolutely nothing wrong with those competitors complaining that Uber gets an unfair advantage. "And FYI - you don't need any training to open a store and offer a service - if people don't like the merchandise or quality of service they go elsewhere - that model works well. If people thought Uber was crap, they wouldn't use it." A store is HUGELY different than a transportation service.

DanBC 9y ago

They need training to remind them they must not refuse service to wheelchair users or service dogs. > And FYI - you don't need any training to open a store and offer a service Depends what you're selling. A bunch of stuff is regulated (guns; alcohol; food) and you'll need to obey those regulations. You'll also need to obey all the other regulations around fire safety etc.

alexasmyths 9y ago
"They need training to remind them they must not refuse service to wheelchair users or service dogs." Nobody needs training for that. They're regs and laws like any other. If you have concerns, you can make them 'pass a test' or whatever they can study on their own time.
- s73ver_ 9y ago
  "Nobody needs training for that." Uber themselves make a very good case that they do.