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Better bike infrastructure keeps bikes off the sidewalk. As a biker you can't win. Drivers try to run you off the road, pedestrians don't want you on the sidew

by imgabe 9y ago

Better bike infrastructure keeps bikes off the sidewalk. As a biker you can't win. Drivers try to run you off the road, pedestrians don't want you on the sidewalk. Bike lanes are a solution, but the political will needs to be there. That being said, in places where bikers feel they have to use the sidewalk, they should absolutely yield to pedestrians.

andrewla 9y ago
In places where bikers feel they have to use the sidewalk, they should absolutely walk their bikes. It's what the law says and its very sensible all around. If you have to go the wrong way up a one-way street or if the road is blocked, you can just get off your bike and walk it for a block. It's not the end of the world to have to walk for a minute. As both a biker and a pedestrian in NYC, this seems so glaringly obvious that it never fails to make me angry when I see a biker blithely biking down the sidewalk. In a city of impatient people riding your bike on the sidewalk is taking things to an anti-social extreme. That said, I do find it frustrating (as both a biker and a pedestrian) when pedestrians fail to yield to bikers when the biker has the light -- New York pedestrians are opportunistic jaywalkers by nature, but so many people fail to look for bikes or yield to them, even when they have the light, if the street is clear of car traffic.
- dmm 9y ago
  > they should absolutely walk their bikes. In many places of the US you have sidewalks built because they were mandated by law but are rarely used. A typical example will have a 4-lane 45+mph road next to big box retail stores. This type of road is unpleasant to bike on but the adjoining sidewalk is empty and, assuming it has sufficient visibility to allow the cyclist to avoid left and right hooks, is much safer than the road. NYC is a fascinating and important place but for better or worse is very different from the typical US city.
- imgabe 9y ago
  > It's what the law says The law varies city by city. Where I live bikes are prohibited from the sidewalk only in the downtown area and it's legal elsewhere. Not that it stops anyone from biking on the sidewalk even downtown or that it ever gets enforced.
e40 9y ago
pedestrians don't want you on the sidewalk It is illegal to ride a bike on the sidewalk in every city I know of. Pedestrians don't have lanes. Pedestrians don't have rules. They might turn suddenly to get into a car, or pop out of a shop. It is just selfish of bikers to think they should be on the sidewalk. It's very dangerous for us pedestrians. In the last 20 years, I've been hit twice on the sidewalk and had to jump out of the way, to avoid serious injury, many times.
- xur17 9y ago
  > It is illegal to ride a bike on the sidewalk in every city I know of. While I agree that riding on the sidewalk is generally a bad idea, it's definitely not illegal in all places. For example, in Austin it's explicitly legal except in these locations [0]. [0] https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Public_Works/Bicycle/Restricted.Sidewalk.Riding%5B2%5D.pdf https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Public...
seppin 9y ago
> As a biker you can't win. Drivers try to run you off the road, pedestrians don't want you on the sidewalk you're right, but the attitude that arises from that problem is what most people don't like about city bikers

by imgabe 9y ago

andrewla 9y ago

In places where bikers feel they have to use the sidewalk, they should absolutely walk their bikes. It's what the law says and its very sensible all around. If you have to go the wrong way up a one-way street or if the road is blocked, you can just get off your bike and walk it for a block. It's not the end of the world to have to walk for a minute. As both a biker and a pedestrian in NYC, this seems so glaringly obvious that it never fails to make me angry when I see a biker blithely biking down the sidewalk. In a city of impatient people riding your bike on the sidewalk is taking things to an anti-social extreme. That said, I do find it frustrating (as both a biker and a pedestrian) when pedestrians fail to yield to bikers when the biker has the light -- New York pedestrians are opportunistic jaywalkers by nature, but so many people fail to look for bikes or yield to them, even when they have the light, if the street is clear of car traffic.

dmm 9y ago
> they should absolutely walk their bikes. In many places of the US you have sidewalks built because they were mandated by law but are rarely used. A typical example will have a 4-lane 45+mph road next to big box retail stores. This type of road is unpleasant to bike on but the adjoining sidewalk is empty and, assuming it has sufficient visibility to allow the cyclist to avoid left and right hooks, is much safer than the road. NYC is a fascinating and important place but for better or worse is very different from the typical US city.
imgabe 9y ago
> It's what the law says The law varies city by city. Where I live bikes are prohibited from the sidewalk only in the downtown area and it's legal elsewhere. Not that it stops anyone from biking on the sidewalk even downtown or that it ever gets enforced.

e40 9y ago

pedestrians don't want you on the sidewalk It is illegal to ride a bike on the sidewalk in every city I know of. Pedestrians don't have lanes. Pedestrians don't have rules. They might turn suddenly to get into a car, or pop out of a shop. It is just selfish of bikers to think they should be on the sidewalk. It's very dangerous for us pedestrians. In the last 20 years, I've been hit twice on the sidewalk and had to jump out of the way, to avoid serious injury, many times.

xur17 9y ago
> It is illegal to ride a bike on the sidewalk in every city I know of. While I agree that riding on the sidewalk is generally a bad idea, it's definitely not illegal in all places. For example, in Austin it's explicitly legal except in these locations [0]. [0] https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Public_Works/Bicycle/Restricted.Sidewalk.Riding%5B2%5D.pdf https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Public...

seppin 9y ago

> As a biker you can't win. Drivers try to run you off the road, pedestrians don't want you on the sidewalk you're right, but the attitude that arises from that problem is what most people don't like about city bikers