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Chelsea Manning barred from entering Canada
- slededit 9y agoYou can be barred entry for a DUI so I don't know what she was expecting. She could seek a waver which may or may not be granted.
- scotty79 9y agoDUI is objective human transgression against safety. Treason is more relative and arbitrary. One country's traitor can be another's hero. Treason is more like blasphemy or copyright infringement.
- slededit 9y agoAnd you expect a border guard to be the one to make that determination on the spot at the border? Mitigating circumstances are why the waiver system exists. If you've been in prison for any reason you shouldn't expect to be let in without a hassle regardless of the crime. Someone is going to have to look at the situation carefully and make a decision.
- alexasmyths 9y agoThe conviction for a serious federal offence I think probably flagged him in the DB ... would be a reasonable reason for this. I don't think there's any scandal here.
- jsjohnst 9y agoThe scandal to me (unrelated to Chelsea directly) is that Canada CBP has higher level access in the US NCIC than most domestic law enforcement agencies.
- slededit 9y agoHow do you get that from the letter posted? The letter claims she admitted she was incarcerated. That said its no surprise Canada and the USA share their criminal record databases. At least on the Canadian side its been a point of controversy around granted pardons which the US does not recognize.
- jsjohnst 9y ago> unrelated to Chelsea directly I think you skipped over the above or maybe I wasn’t clear, I didn’t mean to imply the letter said that, I have first hand knowledge to my statement.
- slededit 9y agoCould you possibly expand a bit more on what sort of data in excess of normal law enforcement agencies is shared? I certainly don't want to pry on the situation you are thinking of specifically, but I am curious about the subject on a macro level. On the Canadian side this debate is normally painted as the Americans wanting yet more data. So of course I am curious to hear the debate from the opposite side.
- sunstone 9y agoThat's the sound of one hand waving bye-bye.
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- chelseafan 9y agoHer
- alexasmyths 9y agoOh yea - her. I usually only refer to the situation of his disclosure, in which case 'him'. I've never commented before on her, post gender change.
- anoctopus 9y agoIt's standard (journalistic) practice to refer to trans people by their preferred pronouns even when referencing events before their transition.
- alexasmyths 9y ago"It's standard (journalistic) practice" I'm definitely not a journalist. I think it's reasonable to refer to someone as their actual gender during an actual event , it would seem rather more accurate, no? Also, as long as people are being reasonable I don't think we remotely need that level of language policing.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> I'm definitely not a journalist. I think it's reasonable to refer to someone as their actual gender during an actual event What actual gender? You mean legal sex/gender (which is a form of externally-ascribed gender)? Or do you mean gender identity and, if so, on what basis do you assess it?
- ramblerman 9y ago> What actual gender The biological one. I'm fine with using a social construct and even embedding it into law. But let's not pretend biology doesn't exist. There is an 'actual' gender.
- ablation 9y agoBizarre overuse of emojis in all of Manning's tweets.