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I personally think that the issue is orthogonal, but correlated. Liberal policies in the US are highly correlated with high population density. Even in red sta
by thephyber 9y ago
I personally think that the issue is orthogonal, but correlated.
Liberal policies in the US are highly correlated with high population density. Even in red states, the cities are mostly outposts of blue politics; even in California, the rural landscapes are dominated by red politics.
Communities seem a bit like ponzi schemes, or are at least creatures of inertia. If the community is growing, it exudes promise and hope and more people are interested in moving there. Growth leads to job openings, which leads to more growth. The inverse is dire. When cities go bankrupt or when rural areas lose residents faster than they replenish them, it becomes a downward spiral and a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Rural areas don't sustain themselves. Urban or "hip" suburban areas have a much better chance at sustaining. College towns constantly have fresh blood (so long as the college stays out of bankruptcy).
I think cities thrive despite the friction created by more socially liberal policies and higher taxation. It's far easier to pivot your business and there are more serendipitous events in densely populated areas with highly educated people. I suspect people would prefer to move to a place with a reasonable social safety net as religious institutions lose the prestige they once had in the US. Perhaps in liberal areas people don't have to fear the social darwinism of the similar situation in a state+county with no funds to help the poor/homeless.
The obvious counter-example to "liberal policy places thrive" is Detroit. Detroit had very liberal policies in a state with very strong labor laws. After car manufacturers moved their manufacturing to cheaper labor areas (the US south and other countries), Detroit's population collapsed to less than 50% of it's peak.
- creaghpatr 9y agoCities like Seattle get municipal tax dollars from companies like Amazon whose business disrupts small towns across the US. States receive the sales tax but there's no compensation for the larger disruption effects.
- alphonsegaston 9y agoThe story of Detroit is far more complicated than what you describe, especially when you choose to gloss over decades of racist violence and humiliation that preceded its collapse. And its economic collapse was also the product of broader right-wing attack on the political/economic power of working class people in the US. Under the guise of “free trade,” they were forced to compete with labor of poorer countries, while the wealthy and their administrators were largely exempt from the same pressures.