Excel is programming. It's just not the kind you do or like. The number of programming things people have done in Excel and Access is astounding, as is the numb

Excel is programming. It's just not the kind you do or like. The number of programming things people have done in Excel and Access is astounding, as is the number of people who've learned to program without realizing it as a result of using those tools. Could they be better? Sure. But don't knock it as not "programming" on that basis -- PHP is also bad.