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who still uses jquery? to create usability mockups?

by jordache 9y ago

chickenfries 9y ago
This is like asking "who still uses wordpress." Outside of the HN bubble, everyone still uses jQuery.
- dmitriid 9y ago
  Even inside HN bubble people regularly drop into jQuery from inside their Reacts and Vues and Polymers. Just because it's super convenient
  - jordache 9y ago
    to do what with jQuery? It's not a good practice to mix them.
    - dmitriid 9y ago
      It isn't, that's true. Sometimes you need to integrate with some third-party things thoug. Ranging from ad networks to well established UI components like Select2 or DynaTables.
jncraton 9y ago
I'm not sure if this is a serious question or not, but about 75% of the top sites on the Internet use jQuery: https://trends.builtwith.com/javascript/jQuery https://trends.builtwith.com/javascript/jQuery Perhaps new projects shouldn't be using jQuery, but it's possible that some devs who just churn out code without watching the industry aren't aware of this. Increasing that awareness appears to be the point of this plainJS landing page.
- rhapsodic 9y ago
  >Perhaps new projects shouldn't be using jQuery, but it's possible that some devs who just churn out code without watching the industry aren't aware of this. Or maybe those devs are watching the industry but don't care for the direction it's urging them to take, e.g. locking themselves into complex frameworks like React for simple crud pages that have the basically the same DOM each and every time they're loaded.
_ZeD_ 9y ago
like, everyone.
jonknee 9y ago
I'm going to shock you here, but jQuery is more popular than React. By several orders of magnitude. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/javascript_library/all https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/javascript_library...
nextlevelwizard 9y ago
Single reason why I should not use it?
- emodendroket 9y ago
  Someone on HN might make fun of you.
- dmitriid 9y ago
  Simple: You don't need React/Vue/Polymer for everything. Personal anecdotal evidence: helping a friend create a very simple dashboard of running jobs returned by a REST service + stats returned by the same service etc. I've yet to find a reason to use jQuery, much less a bigger framework.
  - jordache 9y ago
    >much less a bigger framework So do you primarily write server side web apps? Anything slightly more sophisticated on the front-end beyond imperative jQuery calls, requires a framework, to organize your logic, and to scale up to a team level where multiple devs can contribute to the same front-end codebase.
    - dmitriid 9y ago
      Nope. I'm a frontend developer :) > Anything slightly more sophisticated on the front-end beyond imperative jQuery calls, requires a framework, to organize your logic, and to scale up to a team level where multiple devs can contribute to the same front-end codebase. Yes. Often though, not a framework, but a library.
woah 9y ago
I think you meant "who still starts new projects with jQuery?", and you got a bunch of replies to "who still maintains jQuery codebases?".
jordache 9y ago
I will make the assertion that jQuery is only useful for lightweight DOM manipulating. Any more complex than that, one would use a JS framework to implement the client experience. In this case, you would not want to jQuery. So essentially we are talking about server side apps that still leverages jQuery to achieve some level of dynamicity on the front-end.

who still uses jquery? to create usability mockups?

chickenfries 9y ago

This is like asking "who still uses wordpress." Outside of the HN bubble, everyone still uses jQuery.

dmitriid 9y ago
Even inside HN bubble people regularly drop into jQuery from inside their Reacts and Vues and Polymers. Just because it's super convenient
- jordache 9y ago
  to do what with jQuery? It's not a good practice to mix them.
  - dmitriid 9y ago
    It isn't, that's true. Sometimes you need to integrate with some third-party things thoug. Ranging from ad networks to well established UI components like Select2 or DynaTables.

jncraton 9y ago

I'm not sure if this is a serious question or not, but about 75% of the top sites on the Internet use jQuery: https://trends.builtwith.com/javascript/jQuery https://trends.builtwith.com/javascript/jQuery Perhaps new projects shouldn't be using jQuery, but it's possible that some devs who just churn out code without watching the industry aren't aware of this. Increasing that awareness appears to be the point of this plainJS landing page.

rhapsodic 9y ago
>Perhaps new projects shouldn't be using jQuery, but it's possible that some devs who just churn out code without watching the industry aren't aware of this. Or maybe those devs are watching the industry but don't care for the direction it's urging them to take, e.g. locking themselves into complex frameworks like React for simple crud pages that have the basically the same DOM each and every time they're loaded.

_ZeD_ 9y ago

like, everyone.

jonknee 9y ago

I'm going to shock you here, but jQuery is more popular than React. By several orders of magnitude. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/javascript_library/all https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/javascript_library...

nextlevelwizard 9y ago

Single reason why I should not use it?

emodendroket 9y ago
Someone on HN might make fun of you.
dmitriid 9y ago
Simple: You don't need React/Vue/Polymer for everything. Personal anecdotal evidence: helping a friend create a very simple dashboard of running jobs returned by a REST service + stats returned by the same service etc. I've yet to find a reason to use jQuery, much less a bigger framework.
- jordache 9y ago
  >much less a bigger framework So do you primarily write server side web apps? Anything slightly more sophisticated on the front-end beyond imperative jQuery calls, requires a framework, to organize your logic, and to scale up to a team level where multiple devs can contribute to the same front-end codebase.
  - dmitriid 9y ago
    Nope. I'm a frontend developer :) > Anything slightly more sophisticated on the front-end beyond imperative jQuery calls, requires a framework, to organize your logic, and to scale up to a team level where multiple devs can contribute to the same front-end codebase. Yes. Often though, not a framework, but a library.

woah 9y ago

I think you meant "who still starts new projects with jQuery?", and you got a bunch of replies to "who still maintains jQuery codebases?".

jordache 9y ago

I will make the assertion that jQuery is only useful for lightweight DOM manipulating. Any more complex than that, one would use a JS framework to implement the client experience. In this case, you would not want to jQuery. So essentially we are talking about server side apps that still leverages jQuery to achieve some level of dynamicity on the front-end.