> I'm hoping someday people will realize that none of this is objective, and there are actually perspectives dramatically different than their own. The issue i

> I'm hoping someday people will realize that none of this is objective, and there are actually perspectives dramatically different than their own. The issue isn't whether this or that form of expression is okay with someone or okay with everyone. Again we look to things like self-defense and assault: these cases are not settled by the judge doing a poll to see if someone else would feel intimidated in a similar situation or if everyone (that they could find) would feel fine with it. The issue is whether a reasonable person would find the conduct irritating, coercive or intimidating in the work place. > ...I still feel like we are closing in on a world where any expression of sexuality or attraction is disallowed. There is something to what you're saying here. Often people supplant the "reasonable person" standard with a "someone feels bad" standard -- I have seen it places I've worked, though not with regards to sexual harassment. But two wrongs do not make a right. The alternative to the "someone feels bad" standard is not the "yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man" standard. > If people feel they can't work at a place with a certain set of rules or philosophies then they need to simply move on. Why do you believe they "need" to move on? Why can't they stand and fight?