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Which localities have made it effectively impossible to obtain hormonal birth control but have unchallenged access to vasectomies?

• KirinDave 9y ago
  A great deal of information and links to many credible stories is available here. The efforts are systemic: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/states-fighting-womens-access-health-care/ http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/states-fighting-womens-a...
  • jules 9y ago
    That article is about taxpayer funded health care. Are vasectomies taxpayer funded in these places?
    • KirinDave 9y ago
      They are subsidized, yes.
      • deepnotderp 9y ago
        So is tubal ligation. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490665/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490665/
        • KirinDave 9y ago
          So what? Women have different health care requirements that in some cases have hormonal treatment and those are both under-subsidized and over-stigmatized because religious people of all stripes think it's okay to override women's rights for the sake of their religion. Tubal ligation doesn't solve a thing for PCOS and Endomitriosis sufferers. It doesn't solve anything for people with thyroid issues. But these women get substandard or no treatment in the efforts to restrict access to birth control. But hey, the far less reliable tubal ligation is covered and that makes it fine, because I mentioned casually that men's reproductive care is almost never on the table. Folks were terribly activist about body autonomy when it was medical marijuana on the table. But you mention "oh also this is birth control" and suddenly questions about why governments should be subsidizing medical care for poor people crop up like this isn't a well studied and decades old public health issue. Children of parents with access to pre-natal care cost less to society and offer more than those without, and this is reflected in the health outcomes of planned vs unplanned children.
          • deepnotderp 9y ago
            First of all, men's access to vasectomy procedures was a key tenet of your argument as to why it's unfair to women. Second, all of your arguments center on reproductive healthcare, such as birth control, not being government subsidized, but you ignore that men have no government subsidized reproductive health care either. This isn't to say that it should be that way, I tend to think not, but I fail to see how that's a basic right that women lack.
            • KirinDave 9y ago
              > First of all, men's access to vasectomy procedures was a key tenet of your argument as to why it's unfair to women. No, it was not. I mentioned it in passing. There is no analogue in male health care. > but you ignore that men have no government subsidized reproductive health care either. This isn't even about subsidization. The defunding of Planned Parenthood is just insult to he injury of making affordable women's clinics essentially impossible to operate in many places in the US.
  • deepnotderp 9y ago
    Your link only shows three states, and all of them cut off state/federal funding to institutions providing abortions. This seems like it would be in line with the Hyde amendment. Why is this now somehow an infringement of rights?
    • KirinDave 9y ago
      The question was: what rights do women lack? Right to access basic health care (or even a marketplace with said care in many states) was my answer.