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Concert venues in industrial buildings sound great until you have a fire and people die, thanks to a lack of attention to fire safety.
by greglindahl 9y ago
Concert venues in industrial buildings sound great until you have a fire and people die, thanks to a lack of attention to fire safety.
- darkmuch 9y agoThat's a grim thing to say for no reason.
- greglindahl 9y agoYou're right that it's grim -- I said it because of the title of this discussion, "people being able to do whatever they want", and remembering the Ghost Ship fire in Oakland, CA.
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- L_Rahman 9y agoUnfortunately, it's also something that actually happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire 36 people died.
- darkmuch 9y agoOh, i live nearby; I am definitely aware. That was also horrendously illegal. I'm not sure why you would assume they violate code except to be dramatic. Concerts have been held in industrial places in secret, but if you hear about one it's typically above board.
- sliverstorm 9y agoThat was also horrendously illegal And yet the original parent said: the best part of Detroit is a trend of extremely creative people being able to do whatever they want with their respective spaces Or did I misunderstand, and they are allowed to do anything zoning-wise but are still held to the appropriate codes.
- akgerber 9y agoThe interior is mostly concrete and drywall and there are clearly-lighted exit signs in the photographs. There has been a long history of cultural spaces in ex-industrial space, and it's perfectly safe when basic fire safety regulations for places of assembly are followed.
- greglindahl 9y agoOh, I'm sure these spaces make great concert venues, and are perfectly safe when fire safety is paid attention to.
- Spooky23 9y agoWhen nobody is watching, people tend to cut corners on things like basic fire safety.
- sandworm101 9y agoPop-up concerts sold by word of mouth... tickets sold for and all involved paid in cash. In oher words:illegal. But if you want to officialy convert a space, if you want to sell via ticketmaster or get financing through a bank, then suddenly there is plenty of government. Forget fire inspectors, what is the state of the bathrooms? An ADA suit will cut far deeper than having to install sprinkers. It is far easier to push some industrial-looking stuff into a club than try to setup a legit club inside a factory.
- IncRnd 9y agoIt isn't illegal for concerts to be spread by word of mouth or for their tickets to be sold for cash.
- sandworm101 9y agoNo, but those are red flags.
- IncRnd 9y ago
- free_everybody 9y agoThat's certainly a risk that can be mitigated, as with all structures.