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How is accusing them of negligence going to generate more evidence against you? If no-one stands up to this organization this sort of thing is going to continue

How is accusing them of negligence going to generate more evidence against you? If no-one stands up to this organization this sort of thing is going to continue to happen.

jacquesm 16y ago
Absolutely, it's just that since they're not going to change their ways because of specific individuals taking action it is probably more effective (and less costly) to take this on by people that have no direct stake in the results. That means a platform that is widely carried instead of individual cases against individual persons or the entity as a whole. So it doesn't mean that you shouldn't stand up, pick your battles literally means that you decide on the battleground and make sure they can't get back at you in some sneaky way that will upset your life in ways that you probably really wouldn't care about. See some of the other stories in this thread about how those things go.
kls 16y ago
It is different when you have kids. I don't know your situation (if you have kids), but the threat of taking my kids, trumps the need for social justice (just telling the truth). If I have to stand so be it, but I will turn tail and run when it comes to my kids and their well-being. Principals only go so far when it involves my kids. Because my principals tell me that it is my kids above all else. Fighting them risks my kids and that is not something I am willing to do.
logicalmind 16y ago
It's really not difficult for them to find some violation that could be some kind of "dangerous" situation. Is every outlet in your house child-proof? Is every bookshelf, dresser, etc. secured to the wall so it cannot tip over onto a child? Are your toilet lids locked closed to a child cannot fall into them? There really is no limit to the things they can find. Even worse, they can bring your children to psychologists and ask them leading questions that could lead to concerns about anything they like. DCFS can make your life a living hell if they like. And the more you piss them off the more they are likely to do just that.
- warfangle 16y ago
  "Even worse, they can bring your children to psychologists and ask them leading questions that could lead to concerns about anything they like." I'm curious about this. In the original article, the writer mentions insisting that the interviews be recorded (and even then, they weren't). Would you get in trouble via wiretap laws if you bugged your child during these interviews to hold a recording as evidence in the event leading questions are asked?

How is accusing them of negligence going to generate more evidence against you? If no-one stands up to this organization this sort of thing is going to continue to happen.

jacquesm 16y ago

Absolutely, it's just that since they're not going to change their ways because of specific individuals taking action it is probably more effective (and less costly) to take this on by people that have no direct stake in the results. That means a platform that is widely carried instead of individual cases against individual persons or the entity as a whole. So it doesn't mean that you shouldn't stand up, pick your battles literally means that you decide on the battleground and make sure they can't get back at you in some sneaky way that will upset your life in ways that you probably really wouldn't care about. See some of the other stories in this thread about how those things go.

kls 16y ago

It is different when you have kids. I don't know your situation (if you have kids), but the threat of taking my kids, trumps the need for social justice (just telling the truth). If I have to stand so be it, but I will turn tail and run when it comes to my kids and their well-being. Principals only go so far when it involves my kids. Because my principals tell me that it is my kids above all else. Fighting them risks my kids and that is not something I am willing to do.

logicalmind 16y ago

It's really not difficult for them to find some violation that could be some kind of "dangerous" situation. Is every outlet in your house child-proof? Is every bookshelf, dresser, etc. secured to the wall so it cannot tip over onto a child? Are your toilet lids locked closed to a child cannot fall into them? There really is no limit to the things they can find. Even worse, they can bring your children to psychologists and ask them leading questions that could lead to concerns about anything they like. DCFS can make your life a living hell if they like. And the more you piss them off the more they are likely to do just that.

warfangle 16y ago
"Even worse, they can bring your children to psychologists and ask them leading questions that could lead to concerns about anything they like." I'm curious about this. In the original article, the writer mentions insisting that the interviews be recorded (and even then, they weren't). Would you get in trouble via wiretap laws if you bugged your child during these interviews to hold a recording as evidence in the event leading questions are asked?