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Firefox, please get your shit together and start focusing again on making a competitive browser again. Wanting to lead is good, but will not take you anywhere

Firefox, please get your shit together and start focusing again on making a competitive browser again. Wanting to lead is good, but will not take you anywhere is no one is using your browser. All the other science project are not good, so please scrap them now.

ubertaco 9y ago
I'm interested in what you think it would take to "[make] a competitive browser again" if not major performance improvements.
- noncoml 9y ago
  Performance improvements will not come magically just because they invented a new language and are re-writing everything in this language. I know I sound like an asshole, but it's only because I think Firefox is my last chance for a free web and am disappointed with the route it takes. I really wish they prove me wrong and in 2-3 years Firefox will be a marvel, re-written from scratch in Rust, but I am afraid that even if that's the case it will be too late.
  - moosingin3space 9y ago
    The goal of this series is to explain the techniques behind the performance improvements coming in WebRender. Additionally Mozilla is not re-writing anything from scratch, instead working toward integrating components from Servo into Firefox.
  - pcwalton 9y ago
    > Performance improvements will not come magically just because they invented a new language and are re-writing everything in this language. Good thing that's not what's happening. None of the major Servo/Quantum features in question, including WebRender, are expected to be faster because they're written in Rust. Rather, they're expected to be faster because they've been designed from the ground up for modern hardware (in the case of Stylo, multicore CPUs; in the case of WR, GPUs).
nindalf 9y ago
You clearly want them to prioritise market share but I noticed you didn't provide any direction on how to do that other than "stop what you're doing now". Not only is that unhelpful, it seems like your comment is plain wrong. The best way to gain market share is to build a better product, which is what they're doing.

ubertaco 9y ago

I'm interested in what you think it would take to "[make] a competitive browser again" if not major performance improvements.

noncoml 9y ago
Performance improvements will not come magically just because they invented a new language and are re-writing everything in this language. I know I sound like an asshole, but it's only because I think Firefox is my last chance for a free web and am disappointed with the route it takes. I really wish they prove me wrong and in 2-3 years Firefox will be a marvel, re-written from scratch in Rust, but I am afraid that even if that's the case it will be too late.
- moosingin3space 9y ago
  The goal of this series is to explain the techniques behind the performance improvements coming in WebRender. Additionally Mozilla is not re-writing anything from scratch, instead working toward integrating components from Servo into Firefox.
- pcwalton 9y ago
  > Performance improvements will not come magically just because they invented a new language and are re-writing everything in this language. Good thing that's not what's happening. None of the major Servo/Quantum features in question, including WebRender, are expected to be faster because they're written in Rust. Rather, they're expected to be faster because they've been designed from the ground up for modern hardware (in the case of Stylo, multicore CPUs; in the case of WR, GPUs).

nindalf 9y ago

You clearly want them to prioritise market share but I noticed you didn't provide any direction on how to do that other than "stop what you're doing now". Not only is that unhelpful, it seems like your comment is plain wrong. The best way to gain market share is to build a better product, which is what they're doing.