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I've said the same, but you just know somebody comes along and says "If we render our entire site into a <canvas> it'll make ad blocking more difficult," and th

I've said the same, but you just know somebody comes along and says "If we render our entire site into a <canvas> it'll make ad blocking more difficult," and then poof there goes the last 20 years of work on accessibility.

EvanAnderson 9y ago
Agreed. There will also be the "This will prevent scrapers" excuse. Whatever the silly rationalization for all-Flash websites was will be invoked, as well.
vvanders 9y ago
Oy, that has to be the most depressing thing I've read all day.
gbuk2013 9y ago
Good luck for that site getting indexed by Google ;)
- kuschku 9y ago
  Just like with AJAX sites, Google will simply support it. But writing third-party search engines will become even more impossible.
  - Jyaif 9y ago
    OCR is really not that hard to do.
    - kuschku 9y ago
      For english. Do it reliably for many 27 languages, with many different fonts, and the results are useless. Even Google’s OCR utility can’t reliably detect German Umlaute in fancy fonts.
vbezhenar 9y ago
We can port webkit to wasm, so our developers won't have to deal with browser inconsistencies anymore :)
- weinzierl 9y ago
  Yeah, and V8, so we could just write JavaScript again and wouldn't have to deal with WASM. With a bit support from WASM and a few tweaks to V8 it could run near native JavaScript speed. Let's call it JavaScript paravirtualization.
  - jfbastien 9y ago
    Interpreters can go a long way, but JIT code generation is required for really fast dynamic language implementation. That's quite a bit off for WebAssembly: https://github.com/WebAssembly/design/blob/master/FutureFeatures.md#platform-independent-just-in-time-jit-compilation https://github.com/WebAssembly/design/blob/master/FutureFeat...
  - dispo001 9y ago
    If you strip out the legacy cruft it should be much faster. Reduce it to just the components used! If I understood properly: yes, I do share the bitterness. <troll> Look at us introduce this great new lang! It will potentially get rid of 99.99% of the current web developers and prevent any future script kiddies from getting in the game! Behold the speed of our sealed box environment little jimmy! Stay tuned for next weeks episode of Tech%20Elitism where we cover DRM for the web and public discourse policing!
mahyarm 9y ago
Most ad blocking is about intercepting specific urls, which can work at a layer below javascript. They can also do server side ads and make the url indistinguishable from another image asset. They haven't, so it isn't 'dire' enough yet.

EvanAnderson 9y ago

Agreed. There will also be the "This will prevent scrapers" excuse. Whatever the silly rationalization for all-Flash websites was will be invoked, as well.

vvanders 9y ago

Oy, that has to be the most depressing thing I've read all day.

gbuk2013 9y ago

Good luck for that site getting indexed by Google ;)

kuschku 9y ago
Just like with AJAX sites, Google will simply support it. But writing third-party search engines will become even more impossible.
- Jyaif 9y ago
  OCR is really not that hard to do.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    For english. Do it reliably for many 27 languages, with many different fonts, and the results are useless. Even Google’s OCR utility can’t reliably detect German Umlaute in fancy fonts.

vbezhenar 9y ago

We can port webkit to wasm, so our developers won't have to deal with browser inconsistencies anymore :)

weinzierl 9y ago
Yeah, and V8, so we could just write JavaScript again and wouldn't have to deal with WASM. With a bit support from WASM and a few tweaks to V8 it could run near native JavaScript speed. Let's call it JavaScript paravirtualization.
- jfbastien 9y ago
  Interpreters can go a long way, but JIT code generation is required for really fast dynamic language implementation. That's quite a bit off for WebAssembly: https://github.com/WebAssembly/design/blob/master/FutureFeatures.md#platform-independent-just-in-time-jit-compilation https://github.com/WebAssembly/design/blob/master/FutureFeat...
- dispo001 9y ago
  If you strip out the legacy cruft it should be much faster. Reduce it to just the components used! If I understood properly: yes, I do share the bitterness. <troll> Look at us introduce this great new lang! It will potentially get rid of 99.99% of the current web developers and prevent any future script kiddies from getting in the game! Behold the speed of our sealed box environment little jimmy! Stay tuned for next weeks episode of Tech%20Elitism where we cover DRM for the web and public discourse policing!

mahyarm 9y ago

Most ad blocking is about intercepting specific urls, which can work at a layer below javascript. They can also do server side ads and make the url indistinguishable from another image asset. They haven't, so it isn't 'dire' enough yet.