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Could we be possibly be looking at HP taking HP/UX the same way that Oracle took Solaris? i.e. tossing it overboard?

planteen 9y ago
Oracle is killing Solaris. At least HP has a recent precedent with licensing the rights to another OS (VMS) to a separate company to let its life continue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS And I doubt that HP/UX was 5,000 people within HP.
- zero_one_one 9y ago
  My concern would be that as they look to carve off the less profitable areas of their enterprise divisions, that the HP/UX team (as a smaller subset of the overall quoted number of 5000) and in turn the HP/UX product as it stands at the moment, could potentially be marked to suffer the same projected fate as Solaris.
  - planteen 9y ago
    Yeah... I mean how bright of a future does HP/UX have as long as it is tied to Itanium? It seems like a x86-64 port is necessary for future life.
    - zero_one_one 9y ago
      Agreed... although x86 port for Solaris from SPARC wasn't enough to keep Solaris alive and kicking, despite the huge advancements Sun had made with the kernel and filesystem etc.
tootie 9y ago
I remember the heyday of Unix, but I haven't seen a single Unix system in about 10 years.
X86BSD 9y ago
God I hope so. The last time I touched HP/UX was 2001. I still have nightmares. It's a wretched UNIX. It was running veritas, another wonderful pos software.
- zero_one_one 9y ago
  Nothing like long-term legacy support contracts for a bit of cash injection...
- lsllc 9y ago
  Agreed. HP/UX was terrible.
lsllc 9y ago
That's likely (although not immediate). This year's Itanium 9700 is the last of the Itanium line and according to the roadmap here: https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/05/23/last-itanium-long-last/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/05/23/last-itanium-long-la... They plan to containerize HP/UX and run on x64 Linux, that sounds to me like it's just a plan for a run out to EOL.
- zero_one_one 9y ago
  It's a real shame that the last line of System V Unixes/ Unices / Unii is starting to die off. Market share aside, it's sad that the history of UNIX(r) appears to be coming to a close... A very undignified end to a wonderful OS (BSDs aside!)
  - xenadu02 9y ago
    The BSDs are not an aside. You'll also find macOS hanging out in the FreeBSD family tree. The days of paying vendors massive sums of money for an operating system are over.
    - zero_one_one 9y ago
      To clarify - I agree the BSDs are keeping Unix alive, however separating BSD from those Unixes with System V roots which are starting to wither and die is the point I was making - hence the (BSDs aside) addendum.

Oracle is killing Solaris. At least HP has a recent precedent with licensing the rights to another OS (VMS) to a separate company to let its life continue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS And I doubt that HP/UX was 5,000 people within HP.

zero_one_one 9y ago
My concern would be that as they look to carve off the less profitable areas of their enterprise divisions, that the HP/UX team (as a smaller subset of the overall quoted number of 5000) and in turn the HP/UX product as it stands at the moment, could potentially be marked to suffer the same projected fate as Solaris.
- planteen 9y ago
  Yeah... I mean how bright of a future does HP/UX have as long as it is tied to Itanium? It seems like a x86-64 port is necessary for future life.
  - zero_one_one 9y ago
    Agreed... although x86 port for Solaris from SPARC wasn't enough to keep Solaris alive and kicking, despite the huge advancements Sun had made with the kernel and filesystem etc.

tootie 9y ago

I remember the heyday of Unix, but I haven't seen a single Unix system in about 10 years.

X86BSD 9y ago

God I hope so. The last time I touched HP/UX was 2001. I still have nightmares. It's a wretched UNIX. It was running veritas, another wonderful pos software.

zero_one_one 9y ago
Nothing like long-term legacy support contracts for a bit of cash injection...
lsllc 9y ago
Agreed. HP/UX was terrible.

lsllc 9y ago

That's likely (although not immediate). This year's Itanium 9700 is the last of the Itanium line and according to the roadmap here: https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/05/23/last-itanium-long-last/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/05/23/last-itanium-long-la... They plan to containerize HP/UX and run on x64 Linux, that sounds to me like it's just a plan for a run out to EOL.

zero_one_one 9y ago
It's a real shame that the last line of System V Unixes/ Unices / Unii is starting to die off. Market share aside, it's sad that the history of UNIX(r) appears to be coming to a close... A very undignified end to a wonderful OS (BSDs aside!)
- xenadu02 9y ago
  The BSDs are not an aside. You'll also find macOS hanging out in the FreeBSD family tree. The days of paying vendors massive sums of money for an operating system are over.
  - zero_one_one 9y ago
    To clarify - I agree the BSDs are keeping Unix alive, however separating BSD from those Unixes with System V roots which are starting to wither and die is the point I was making - hence the (BSDs aside) addendum.