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> IMO, while Tim Cook may not be a product visionary, I think he is unrivaled as a business visionary. Calling him merely a "good" operator does the man a treme

> IMO, while Tim Cook may not be a product visionary, I think he is unrivaled as a business visionary. Calling him merely a "good" operator does the man a tremendous disservice. As I said elsewhere, this bothers me too. Cook is damn good at what he does, the problem is what he does is product delivery, not product development. The solitary new line they've launched since Job's passing was new sizes of iPhones and iPads, and the only entirely new product was the Watch, which arguably the first gen (Series 0 now) should never have left Cupertino. It wasn't ready, and I'm sorry but I think Jobs would've told them to take it back to the lab and make it GOOD before they released it.

toasterlovin 9y ago
I think people make way too much out of the fact that Apple doesn't have Steve Jobs anymore. Who cares? No other companies have Steve Jobs either. The real question is: are they better at every other company at conceiving of and making products? IMO they are. Much hay is made out of the fact that version 1 of the watch wasn't 100% spot on. But again, that's fine. No company in the world is as good at Apple at iterating on products. So they iterated and the watch is a pretty great product now (and they sold a bunch of version 1 despite it's shortcomings).
- charlesdm 9y ago
  "at conceiving of and making products" > I like my Apple products, but I would say they are not. They are merely good at improving them. The watch, which has been the only product released since Jobs his passing (and I'm definitely not a Jobs fanboy) is.. garbage imo. I'll take my mechanical watch any day of the week, thanks.
  - toasterlovin 9y ago
    You’re entitled to your opinion, but: 1) Lots of people are buying them. 2) They have incredible customer satisfaction numbers. Higher than any other Apple product, I believe.
  - FussyZeus 9y ago
    You may want to take another look. The first Watch was garbage; the Series 2 and 3 are actually pretty impressive.

toasterlovin 9y ago

I think people make way too much out of the fact that Apple doesn't have Steve Jobs anymore. Who cares? No other companies have Steve Jobs either. The real question is: are they better at every other company at conceiving of and making products? IMO they are. Much hay is made out of the fact that version 1 of the watch wasn't 100% spot on. But again, that's fine. No company in the world is as good at Apple at iterating on products. So they iterated and the watch is a pretty great product now (and they sold a bunch of version 1 despite it's shortcomings).

charlesdm 9y ago
"at conceiving of and making products" > I like my Apple products, but I would say they are not. They are merely good at improving them. The watch, which has been the only product released since Jobs his passing (and I'm definitely not a Jobs fanboy) is.. garbage imo. I'll take my mechanical watch any day of the week, thanks.
- toasterlovin 9y ago
  You’re entitled to your opinion, but: 1) Lots of people are buying them. 2) They have incredible customer satisfaction numbers. Higher than any other Apple product, I believe.
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  You may want to take another look. The first Watch was garbage; the Series 2 and 3 are actually pretty impressive.