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DNA should be the only fully trusted proof of identity. To apply for a credit of any important amount (or any other important procedure) you should be required

DNA should be the only fully trusted proof of identity. To apply for a credit of any important amount (or any other important procedure) you should be required to be pinched to extract a drop of blood and determine if you are who you say you are according to the DNA database.

rcfox 9y ago
This would likely reduce the rate of bone marrow donation.
mkagenius 9y ago
Just the application or would you want to get pinched every time you would want to log in? Sounds really painful.
- tylersmith 9y ago
  Not to mention changing your DNA if it gets compromised will be difficult.
  - Spivak 9y ago
    I think it's actually could be a pretty good system. It's a piece of information that uniquely identifies you and even if it's totally public it doesn't help someone impersonate you. Sure someone could easily produce a sample of your DNA but they couldn't fake a fresh blood sample taken by the person authorizing you.
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  Cheek swabs are a thing, and the most common venue for collecting DNA.
dogecoinbase 9y ago
"Perfect for identical twins!"
- firethief 9y ago
  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-g...
  - thaumasiotes 9y ago
    They are identical for the purposes of a standard test. The fact that a difference exists doesn't mean you can find it.
drvdevd 9y ago
"real time" PCR and other such techniques could make (will/is) something like this feasible... but you wouldn't need to get pinched or poked. It could probably extract DNA in real time from your sweat or breath. But then DNA will become just another identifier, because we'll be able to synthesize it too, and then amplify it again, use it to trick the machine, and so forth. EDIT: leaving the error, but real time PCR is actually a lab technique. I meant basically super fast sequencing
- notgood 9y ago
  Synthesize it? You can change your DNA in the future? Like they are looking at the blood going out from your body and they can fake that too? Future is amazing.
mirimir 9y ago
This is a very bad idea. It's easy to get enough DNA, covertly. You're constantly shedding DNA-containing bits.
- Spivak 9y ago
  I think the argument would be that it's easy to get a sample of a person's DNA, but you can't fake it when the person authorizing you takes a fresh sample.
  - notgood 9y ago
    Yeah; of course this is what I mean; somehow I got down-voted to oblivion, f-uck you too hacker news community.
  - mirimir 9y ago
    Sure, but someone else could pretend that they were you, with your DNA. They'd need to fake the "fresh sample" part, but that's doable.
    - notgood 9y ago
      Of course, they take a hair from your head; and it was exactly the fake hair they had prepared, and then they take a drop of blood from your finger; and its the fake finger you prepared; then they check your iris and its the eye transplantation from the victim just like you prepared.
      - mirimir 9y ago
        That's a good point. But I still don't like it. I mean, there are circumstances where it'd work. But the requirements for verification and chain of custody would limit usefulness, I think.
        notgood 9y ago
        Yeah, trust companies like Equifax instead.
revmoo 9y ago
Remember to change your DNA on a regular basis to avert identity theft!

rcfox 9y ago

This would likely reduce the rate of bone marrow donation.

mkagenius 9y ago

Just the application or would you want to get pinched every time you would want to log in? Sounds really painful.

tylersmith 9y ago
Not to mention changing your DNA if it gets compromised will be difficult.
- Spivak 9y ago
  I think it's actually could be a pretty good system. It's a piece of information that uniquely identifies you and even if it's totally public it doesn't help someone impersonate you. Sure someone could easily produce a sample of your DNA but they couldn't fake a fresh blood sample taken by the person authorizing you.
ceejayoz 9y ago
Cheek swabs are a thing, and the most common venue for collecting DNA.

dogecoinbase 9y ago

"Perfect for identical twins!"

firethief 9y ago
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-g...
- thaumasiotes 9y ago
  They are identical for the purposes of a standard test. The fact that a difference exists doesn't mean you can find it.

drvdevd 9y ago

"real time" PCR and other such techniques could make (will/is) something like this feasible... but you wouldn't need to get pinched or poked. It could probably extract DNA in real time from your sweat or breath. But then DNA will become just another identifier, because we'll be able to synthesize it too, and then amplify it again, use it to trick the machine, and so forth. EDIT: leaving the error, but real time PCR is actually a lab technique. I meant basically super fast sequencing

notgood 9y ago
Synthesize it? You can change your DNA in the future? Like they are looking at the blood going out from your body and they can fake that too? Future is amazing.

mirimir 9y ago

This is a very bad idea. It's easy to get enough DNA, covertly. You're constantly shedding DNA-containing bits.

Spivak 9y ago
I think the argument would be that it's easy to get a sample of a person's DNA, but you can't fake it when the person authorizing you takes a fresh sample.
- notgood 9y ago
  Yeah; of course this is what I mean; somehow I got down-voted to oblivion, f-uck you too hacker news community.
- mirimir 9y ago
  Sure, but someone else could pretend that they were you, with your DNA. They'd need to fake the "fresh sample" part, but that's doable.
  - notgood 9y ago
    Of course, they take a hair from your head; and it was exactly the fake hair they had prepared, and then they take a drop of blood from your finger; and its the fake finger you prepared; then they check your iris and its the eye transplantation from the victim just like you prepared.
    - mirimir 9y ago
      That's a good point. But I still don't like it. I mean, there are circumstances where it'd work. But the requirements for verification and chain of custody would limit usefulness, I think.
      - notgood 9y ago
        Yeah, trust companies like Equifax instead.

revmoo 9y ago

Remember to change your DNA on a regular basis to avert identity theft!