> btw there are amazing Indian coders, but you generally won't find many of them in these software houses producing the run of the mill code My favorite story

> btw there are amazing Indian coders, but you generally won't find many of them in these software houses producing the run of the mill code My favorite story is when, at a company I worked, the maintenance of a security product with the potential to brick a machine was handed over to such a sweat-shop. My then manager, who was behind the outsourcing, called it a success when they had successfully installed the product and bricked their dev machines. "They have already installed it on their machines! (and now they are trying to circumvent it)".