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> Both Evans and Danesi set out to explain [...] why we can ignore naysayers who cite them as another example of the erosion of standards. The use of inline pi
by lifthrasiir 9y ago
> Both Evans and Danesi set out to explain [...] why we can ignore naysayers who cite them as another example of the erosion of standards.
The use of inline pictographs to enrich the text is not bad by itself and actually well supported by their arguments. We had them in instant messengers and chatting systems for a long time. But it is a completely different matter to put them into the Unicode standard.
The original set of Emoji was highly culture-dependent (for examle there had been only 10 country flags, as those were the most relevant countries to Japaneses---Unicode correctly recognized this problem and yet picked a bad solution!), defined by glyphs and not by its supposed meaning unlike most scripts in Unicode (that's still true today, and we are still suffering from different Emoji glyphs for multiple vendors), and could be very quickly declining in use for whatever reason (like emoticons trending and declining).
So Emoji is quite unsuitable for encoding without a compelling reason. Here the compelling reason turned out to be the interoperability with Japanese carriers [1], and that's why Emoji is an inevitable but ugly addition to the Unicode standard. I feel it is correct to claim both that (the contemporary usage of) Emoji is a great cultural trend and that (the Unicode addition of) Emoji is absurd.
[1] The original proposal http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2009/09025r2-emoji.pdf http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2009/09025r2-emoji.pdf is very clear in this regard.
- TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago> Unicode correctly recognized this problem and yet picked a bad solution What do you dislike about their solution? > Emoji is an inevitable but ugly addition of the Unicode standard In fairness, Unicode has long had emoticons. Emoji merely expanded its repertoire.
- lifthrasiir 9y ago> What do you dislike about their solution? Regional indicators (two of them compose to a flag Emoji) can make many Unicode operations inefficient. For example in the grapheme cluster segmentation it should pair two regional indicators [1], so with a very long run of regional indicators it is impossible to partially apply the segmentation (which is often the case). There really should have been two pairs of regional indicators, the first used for the first letter and the second used for the second letter---just like surrogate pairs. [1] http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-31.html#GB12 http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-31.html#GB12 > In fairness, Unicode has long had emoticons. Emoji merely expanded its repertoire. Well, Unicode also has dingbats for the compatibility. I don't blame the Unicode consortium for the decision. I do blame those nasty Japanese carriers for permanently harming the Unicode standard though :-)