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If I were an Exxon exec, I’d be less worried about lawsuits, and more worried about future lynchings by an enraged and suffering world populace. In particular,

If I were an Exxon exec, I’d be less worried about lawsuits, and more worried about future lynchings by an enraged and suffering world populace. In particular, when a particular kind of person connects the dots between fossil fuels, climate change, and mass migration they’re going to flip.

goatlover 9y ago
Perhaps, but why is it only Exxon's fault, and not everyone who uses any form of energy based on fossil fuels? If things get that bad, I'm guessing the entire industrialized world is going to be blamed.
- door 9y ago
  exxon has a hell of a lot more power than one single individual. also barring some wild off-the-grid alt lifestyle pretty much everyone relies on fossil fuels
- njarboe 9y ago
  Oakland and SF could start by banning all gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel in their jurisdictions. See how that works out. Can't we just get an international CO2 tax and slowly ratchet it up to the level to stop CO2 in the atmosphere from going up? Exxon wants it. And it looks like China would be on-board (trust but verify). Maybe India too and we are all set.
- grigjd3 9y ago
  The cost gets distributed. Exxon certainly won't just lose money. They'll raise prices.
TeMPOraL 9y ago
At this point I'm still betting the mass lynching of programmers (because of job loss due to automation) will happen sooner.
- santaclaus 9y ago
  Out of curiosity how does one pick out a programmer in an angry mob for lynching?
  - omginternets 9y ago
    The social media sites and web tracking tools we built should help.
    - vorotato 9y ago
      Ah but if we're honest the people really at fault is the capitalist society demanding labor for survival, even when there is no meaningful labor left to be done.
      - Analemma_ 9y ago
        Then it's a good thing angry mobs are so careful and discriminating, and only ever target the people who are really at fault /s
        QAPereo 9y ago
        Revolutionary France is a prime example of that restraint. /s
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    Your friends and family - and their friends and families - know who you are. That, and social media.
briandear 9y ago
Have we suffered more or less since fossil fuels? One could argue that fossil fuels have reduced suffering. Relief supplies aren’t delivered by sailboat.
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goatlover 9y ago

Perhaps, but why is it only Exxon's fault, and not everyone who uses any form of energy based on fossil fuels? If things get that bad, I'm guessing the entire industrialized world is going to be blamed.

door 9y ago
exxon has a hell of a lot more power than one single individual. also barring some wild off-the-grid alt lifestyle pretty much everyone relies on fossil fuels
njarboe 9y ago
Oakland and SF could start by banning all gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel in their jurisdictions. See how that works out. Can't we just get an international CO2 tax and slowly ratchet it up to the level to stop CO2 in the atmosphere from going up? Exxon wants it. And it looks like China would be on-board (trust but verify). Maybe India too and we are all set.
grigjd3 9y ago
The cost gets distributed. Exxon certainly won't just lose money. They'll raise prices.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

At this point I'm still betting the mass lynching of programmers (because of job loss due to automation) will happen sooner.

santaclaus 9y ago
Out of curiosity how does one pick out a programmer in an angry mob for lynching?
- omginternets 9y ago
  The social media sites and web tracking tools we built should help.
  - vorotato 9y ago
    Ah but if we're honest the people really at fault is the capitalist society demanding labor for survival, even when there is no meaningful labor left to be done.
    - Analemma_ 9y ago
      Then it's a good thing angry mobs are so careful and discriminating, and only ever target the people who are really at fault /s
      - QAPereo 9y ago
        Revolutionary France is a prime example of that restraint. /s
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  Your friends and family - and their friends and families - know who you are. That, and social media.

briandear 9y ago

Have we suffered more or less since fossil fuels? One could argue that fossil fuels have reduced suffering. Relief supplies aren’t delivered by sailboat.

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