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Oh spare me. Apple is waaay in bed with rightsholders when it comes to DRM. It's all wine and roses as long as you're 100% bought in to their ecosystem. Try pla

Oh spare me. Apple is waaay in bed with rightsholders when it comes to DRM. It's all wine and roses as long as you're 100% bought in to their ecosystem. Try playing your iTunes purchase on a non-Apple product and you're SOL. I fail to see how this solves "the problems of the end users."

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Crontab 9y ago
You have it backwards. The rights holders forced the DRM requirements on Apple - Apple never sought it out.
tomjakubowski 9y ago
> Try playing your iTunes purchase on a non-Apple product and you're SOL What are you talking about? Did iTunes add back DRM? Around 2009 or so Apple made all of iTunes DRM-free and were, I believe, the first major online music store to do so. It was a huge deal; Apple published an open letter from Jobs on their home page and everything. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/companies/07apple.html?mcubz=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/companies/07app... "iTunes Plus refers to songs and some music videos* in high-quality AAC format that don't have Digital Rights Management (DRM). All songs now for sale in the iTunes Store are iTunes Plus." https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201616 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201616 and, as of 2014, you could kill DRM on DRM-ed iTunes purchases made before 2009 https://www.wired.com/2014/03/kill-itunes-drm/ https://www.wired.com/2014/03/kill-itunes-drm/
- criddell 9y ago
  Movies are still generally protected with DRM. Do you know if you can play iTunes movies with a third party player (like VLC).
  - agentdrtran 9y ago
    Who sells DRM free movies?
    - criddell 9y ago
      gog.com Plus, not all DRM schemes are equal. One that is exclusive to Apple is worse (IMHO) than one that isn't. For example, I can go to a store and buy a DVD or BluRay disk that has DRM yet I am very sure that I can play it on every player I own.
      - ender341341 9y ago
        As big of a fan of gog as I am and as much as I dislike itunes I think it's pretty disingenuous to compare their movie store to itunes. They have 56 movies on their store and I don't think any of them could be considered mainstream.
        criddell 9y ago
        Oh I agree with you. I was originally responding to the person that said the iTunes store doesn't sell DRM'd stuff. The movies definitely are but I don't know if the DRM restricts the movie to being played on an Apple device or if it uses some non-Apple DRM making it playable elsewhere.

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Crontab 9y ago

You have it backwards. The rights holders forced the DRM requirements on Apple - Apple never sought it out.

tomjakubowski 9y ago

> Try playing your iTunes purchase on a non-Apple product and you're SOL What are you talking about? Did iTunes add back DRM? Around 2009 or so Apple made all of iTunes DRM-free and were, I believe, the first major online music store to do so. It was a huge deal; Apple published an open letter from Jobs on their home page and everything. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/companies/07apple.html?mcubz=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/companies/07app... "iTunes Plus refers to songs and some music videos* in high-quality AAC format that don't have Digital Rights Management (DRM). All songs now for sale in the iTunes Store are iTunes Plus." https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201616 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201616 and, as of 2014, you could kill DRM on DRM-ed iTunes purchases made before 2009 https://www.wired.com/2014/03/kill-itunes-drm/ https://www.wired.com/2014/03/kill-itunes-drm/

criddell 9y ago
Movies are still generally protected with DRM. Do you know if you can play iTunes movies with a third party player (like VLC).
- agentdrtran 9y ago
  Who sells DRM free movies?
  - criddell 9y ago
    gog.com Plus, not all DRM schemes are equal. One that is exclusive to Apple is worse (IMHO) than one that isn't. For example, I can go to a store and buy a DVD or BluRay disk that has DRM yet I am very sure that I can play it on every player I own.
    - ender341341 9y ago
      As big of a fan of gog as I am and as much as I dislike itunes I think it's pretty disingenuous to compare their movie store to itunes. They have 56 movies on their store and I don't think any of them could be considered mainstream.
      - criddell 9y ago
        Oh I agree with you. I was originally responding to the person that said the iTunes store doesn't sell DRM'd stuff. The movies definitely are but I don't know if the DRM restricts the movie to being played on an Apple device or if it uses some non-Apple DRM making it playable elsewhere.