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Wire Server open sourced
- Dowwie 9y agoIt is worth noting that this venture features an open sourced, Haskell implementation of a messaging server and Rust implementations of the underlying secure messaging protocol, Axolotl
- equalunique 9y agoNot only that, but the chat & calling actually work well too. Test it out yourself. My username on there is the same as my username on here.
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- throwaway2016a 9y agoTo save people of a few seconds of confusion... "Wire" is a secure messaging app. When I saw "wire server" I immediately though "wire protocol" which is a networking term and also something completely different.
- dijit 9y agoThis is a compelling reason to use Wire over Telegram or whatsapp. I am assuming we can run our own instances though.
- pixelmonk 9y ago"The next step for the team is to remove dependencies on specific services to pave the road for an easily self-hostable server."
- tptacek 9y agoI would hope the sharply better security of Wire or WhatsApp would be a good reason to use them instead of Telegram.
- woodrowbarlow 9y agothere are plenty of factors at play. for example: i would hope the "not being owned by a datamining advertising giant" of wire or telegram would be a good reason to use them instead of whatsapp.
- tptacek 9y agoIf you're worried about supporting Facebook, use Wire. Facebook can't read WhatsApp messages, which are E2E encrypted (unlike Telegram's default). But it's a legit concern, and one that Wire addresses nicely. You should be extremely suspicious of any messaging company that advertises client-server encryption as a privacy feature. It obviously is not.
- snakeanus 9y agoThe fact that WhatsApp is non-free and backdoored <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13389935> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13389935> is a good enough reason not to use it instead of telegram (or wire or signal or tox or most e2e programs).
- tptacek 9y agoWell, if "snakeanus" on Hacker News says so, why would I believe Matthew D. Green, Bruce Schneier, Avi Rubin, Steve Bellovin, Emin Gün Sirer, and Paulo Barreto when they cosign a letter saying that report was horseshit? Tough call, I guess!
- snakeanus 9y agoNice appeal to authority you got there.
- Markoff 9y agoyou need only one reason to use app - your contacts there if I will find only one my contact on Wire, it can be amazing as much they want, but it's useless, reason why I switched today from Hangouts to Facebook Whatsapp as my secondary messenger (primary is Signal), which I really don't like (especially bloated UI with 2 unnecessary tabs out of 4), but there is not really any other option, since nobody use Allo, Skype has horrible UI, and very few people use Telegram or Viber telegram, wire or signal are fine for people working in IT, but if you have contacts outside your work circle they are pretty much useless
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- newscracker 9y agoI haven't used Wire [1] in a long time because it didn't have a way to backup and restore conversations when switching devices (Signal behaves the same way too). But I do look at the release notes whenever the client is updated. Recently I was happy to see that Wire allowed up to three accounts to be configured in the client! I also like the fact that Wire doesn't need a phone number (unlike Telegram, Signal, WhatsApp and similar applications). You can sign up with an email address and use it. Of course, Wire is end-to-end encrypted, syncs across devices (unlike Signal) and has native^ multi-platform/multi-OS support where each device is independent and doesn't need the phone to be around (unlike Signal or WhatsApp). On the topic of open sourcing the server, it's a good move from the security audit point of view. But until any of these new age apps/platforms support federation and decentralized communication, there's not much use for the masses to look for servers run by specific people. ^: As mentioned in a comment below, it's an Electron app, but I meant to indicate that there's an app that you can install for each platform without having more prerequisites (unlike Signal that requires Chrome/Chromium to be installed first). [1]: https://wire.com https://wire.com
- ailideex 9y agowhile wire seems better than most alternatives I prefer matrix.org/riot.im - it is not quite geared at same function but it works just as well for it.
- zeveb 9y agoWire is really, really exciting. I don't know if I trust its crypto anywhere near as much as I trust Signal's, and I don't know if I trust its business model as much, but featurewise it seems a healthy competitor. Multi-device. Email-address-based. Federated [soon]. What's not to like?
- Siimteller 9y agoCrypto - Wire’s Proteus is an independent implementation of Axolotl that was later renamed to Signal Protocol. There’s also an external audit available - info and links from Wire.com/privacy. As to business model, Wire is VC funded by Iconical.com /Janus Friis (co-founder of Skype) and announced the first paid product in July - wire.com/teams. Full disclosure: I work at Wire.
- grizzles 9y agoIf they ship an API + a lowish cost proprietary license I could see them doing nicely from this. I'd go $100 or $1 per employee, whichever is greater.
- Siimteller 9y agoWe have the beginnings of an API - Wire.com/developer
- crtasm 9y agoDid anyone else end up ditching Wire on android due to an update about two months ago breaking notification sounds? They're aware of it but no fix as yet.