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You misunderstood. Security and privacy should be a given. Security and privacy should never have been an easy opportunity for Apple to differentiate against i

by ak39 9y ago

You misunderstood. Security and privacy should be a given. Security and privacy should never have been an easy opportunity for Apple to differentiate against its competitors. Edit: Would I expect my wife to cook me a lovely welcoming dinner if I phoned her from work to tell her I had been an honest and loyal husband for the whole day? No. (She would, had I had gotten her flowers without saying a word though! But that's another thing.)

coldtea 9y ago
>Security and privacy should be a given. Security and privacy should never have been an easy opportunity for Apple to differentiate against its competitors. Even so, that's a shame for the other vendors. It's them who should "give it" to their users, to make it a given. Apple has already done that. >Would I expect my wife to cook me a lovely welcoming dinner if I phoned her from work to tell her I had been an honest and loyal husband for the whole day? No. If you were the only honest husband around, then surely she would appreciate it.
Majestic121 9y ago
Yes, but if security and privacy should be a given, why would you consider it a shame for a company to assert those values while their competitor don't ? I'm sorry, but blaming Apple in this case makes absolutely no sense to me, and I'm definitely not pro Apple usually. In this case, it's the rest of the world that is to blame for not caring about privacy and security as much as Apple/at all, not the other way around
criddell 9y ago
> Security and privacy should be a given I couldn't agree more. The news shouldn't be that Apple is doing something remarkable, it should be how other browsers fail to protect their users in similar ways.
sjwright 9y ago
I suppose you also blame Tesla for promoting the excellent crash safety characteristics of their vehicles? No sir, I don't misunderstand your stupid argument. The only way Apple's competitors are ever going to care about user privacy is if they're shamed into it through competition. If anything, Apple ought to beat this drum more loudly. (Also, your husband analogy is junk. For your analogy fit properly, we'd need to live in a world where it was the norm for husbands to be routinely dishonest and disloyal. And the wife would need to be a product rather than another equal human.)

by ak39 9y ago

coldtea 9y ago

>Security and privacy should be a given. Security and privacy should never have been an easy opportunity for Apple to differentiate against its competitors. Even so, that's a shame for the other vendors. It's them who should "give it" to their users, to make it a given. Apple has already done that. >Would I expect my wife to cook me a lovely welcoming dinner if I phoned her from work to tell her I had been an honest and loyal husband for the whole day? No. If you were the only honest husband around, then surely she would appreciate it.

Majestic121 9y ago

Yes, but if security and privacy should be a given, why would you consider it a shame for a company to assert those values while their competitor don't ? I'm sorry, but blaming Apple in this case makes absolutely no sense to me, and I'm definitely not pro Apple usually. In this case, it's the rest of the world that is to blame for not caring about privacy and security as much as Apple/at all, not the other way around

criddell 9y ago

> Security and privacy should be a given I couldn't agree more. The news shouldn't be that Apple is doing something remarkable, it should be how other browsers fail to protect their users in similar ways.

sjwright 9y ago

I suppose you also blame Tesla for promoting the excellent crash safety characteristics of their vehicles? No sir, I don't misunderstand your stupid argument. The only way Apple's competitors are ever going to care about user privacy is if they're shamed into it through competition. If anything, Apple ought to beat this drum more loudly. (Also, your husband analogy is junk. For your analogy fit properly, we'd need to live in a world where it was the norm for husbands to be routinely dishonest and disloyal. And the wife would need to be a product rather than another equal human.)