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>Justice, Equality for all, everything is a vague concept. So then you understand there is plenty of room for bias to create disagreement, which can have real
by seabta 9y ago
>Justice, Equality for all, everything is a vague concept.
So then you understand there is plenty of room for bias to create disagreement, which can have real world consequences, as I've been saying?
>The issue is that you think no one else believes in Equality, or something.
It's the "or something" bit, which I've explained very clearly, repeatedly, but which you won't address because it annihilates your argument.
>And all we gotta do...
Ya, all we gotta do. Easy as 1 2 3. Just tell mean white people not to call blacks the 'N' word and poof! Everyone will agree on the precise definition of equality.
>Racial Quotas being suggested...
You understand that a whole lot of people disagree with you about whether that promotes equality, right? All we gotta do is get them to agree with you, right? Just give the finger to people who engage in racial voting suppression, and bam! The exact definition of equality will get slammed into everyone's mind so hard they won't be able to disagree. As long as there are a few cases which you think no one could disagree with, even though people have disagreed with them rather strenuously in the past, the precise, universally agreed upon definition must be right around the corner, right?
>but society comes to a general, sane conclusion.
You understand society came to the conclusion 200 years ago that equality didn't even apply to other races, right? They believed in equality, they just meant something a little different by it than you do.
>I don't expect everyone's definition of "equality" to perfectly match.
So then you understand there's room for reasonable disagreement among reasonable people, and that their human biases will generally result in them preferring the answer which is better for their own race?
>For the most part, I just don't want people to advocate the advance THEIR race at the detriment of other races.
No one cares what you want. You not wanting it doesn't mean it's not going to happen. People are going to be biased toward their own race, consciously or not, and that's going to have real world consequences. Your hopes and feelings don't change reality.
- dragontamer 9y ago> No one cares what you want If you don't care for my thoughts, then you don't need to have them.
- seabta 9y agoIf you wanted gravity to not exist, would you jump off of a tall building?
- dragontamer 9y agoWow. Erm, okay. You really are dense. Let me simplify my previous post down so that even you can understand it. "Goodbye". Feel free to close out on a snarky note. I'll give you another chance to come up with something better. But the patheticness of your last response has pulled me back. If your final words are sufficiently snarky, I'll leave you alone. Or you can just leave too, that's cool.
- seabta 9y agoAll I'm trying to get you to understand is that as far as this topic is concerned, it doesn't matter how you want people to behave. What matters is how people actually behave.
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