> Where is the law that doesn't say "if you murder, you go to jail" but instead sets things up so you physically can not murder? is the only way to prevent mur

> Where is the law that doesn't say "if you murder, you go to jail" but instead sets things up so you physically can not murder? is the only way to prevent murder a physical impediment? does talking an attacker out of their plans count as preventing a murder? > I pointed out the case of extreme punishment, death, not even THAT being capable of preventing the simple stupid crimes like stealing a pair of shoes. again, you seem to be suggesting that 'deterrence doesn't real' because crime still exists. it seems you're presenting deterrence as an all-or-nothing dichotomy. > 'Some' are individuals. I was speaking of humans overall. indeed, and that's the point. pointing to a vague generalization about humans doesn't keep your kids safe.