> Maybe you should start with the basics about European history. Don't condescend to me. I live in what was Yugoslavia. And that terrible civil war? I spend my

> Maybe you should start with the basics about European history. Don't condescend to me. I live in what was Yugoslavia. And that terrible civil war? I spend my days surrounded by its victims. None of them saw it coming. Nobody did until it was too late. > Spain had a more terrible civil war and Spain still exists as it was before. "More terrible"? By what measure? Half as many Spaniards died during the Spanish Civil War as were killed in the Yugoslav theatre during the same period. By the 1970s, the result was the same in both cases: A powerful federal state, ruled by a dictator, comprised of areas with strong regional identities. And in the most recent Yugoslav Wars? Sure, fewer people died than in Spain, but only because over four million fled. That's almost ten times as many displaced people as in the Spanish Civil War. Don't pretend that Spain has a monopoly on suffering or is somehow special. > The history of Catalonia says that they have never really fought for independence. Historians (and Serbs) said the same thing about Croatians and Slovenes right up until they walked out of the constitutional congress. I could go on... Listen, one of us is definitely ignorant of history, but it ain't me. I strongly suggest you read up on the events preceding the Yugoslav Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars#Background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars#Background I think you'll find the parallels disconcerting.