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>> Politicians should start Patreon campaigns to get livable wages from supporters and then just execute on what they stand for. They'll just seek more and mor

by NTDF9 9y ago

>> Politicians should start Patreon campaigns to get livable wages from supporters and then just execute on what they stand for. They'll just seek more and more funds to become richer and richer. This is how corrupt democracies work. The only people who should be politicians are the ones who'd do it with no campaign funds and median wage. They need to be in touch with realities of their electoral base and have the desire to change it for everyone.

craftyguy 9y ago
> The only people who should be politicians are the ones who'd do it with no campaign funds and median wage Perhaps a better way to phrase this is to only allow candidates who make within, say, 10% of the median wage for their district, and they would only get paid median wage in office.
- AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
  I don't know, that sounds arbitrarily limiting. Everyone should be allowed to participate. I just think that technology has allowed to seek support and sustenance while one fights for a cause. When the support is gone, you go back to earning your living. No strings attached in either direction. Employment of representative, and continuous patronage by the represented, at will.
AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
>The only people who should be politicians are the ones who'd do it with no campaign funds and median wage. I wholeheartedly disagree. Representing people is full time job and must be paid living wages. People competing to represent people deserve to get funding to support living expenses while they run their campaigns. Do you want a factory worker delivering pizza at night to represent people like him? If so, then he needs funding so that he can put food on the table while he tries to get elected. If people don't crowdfund it then there is no other option but to seek lobbyist money. No different than soldiers and police and firefighters. The problem is that there is not enough turn over of representatives. More people being able to get living expenses crowdfunded mean there will be more competition for representatives, competition to win and keep supporters, not a competition to seek and win lobbying funding in support of re-election.
- NTDF9 9y ago
  >> Do you want a factory worker delivering pizza at night to represent people like him? If so, then he needs funding so that he can put food on the table while he tries to get elected. If people don't crowdfund it then there is no other option but to seek lobbyist money. No different than soldiers and police and firefighters. I want a person who is educated and has the desire to improve lives to represent people. The extreme rich are far too detached from reality, the poor are struggling and probably have enough problems to not have had the acumen and experience to deal with issues of others. A person who was rich or middle class before and is going to continue to earn middle income wages for this new job will only take this job because he/she cares, not because they see this as another path to wealth.

by NTDF9 9y ago

craftyguy 9y ago

> The only people who should be politicians are the ones who'd do it with no campaign funds and median wage Perhaps a better way to phrase this is to only allow candidates who make within, say, 10% of the median wage for their district, and they would only get paid median wage in office.

AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
I don't know, that sounds arbitrarily limiting. Everyone should be allowed to participate. I just think that technology has allowed to seek support and sustenance while one fights for a cause. When the support is gone, you go back to earning your living. No strings attached in either direction. Employment of representative, and continuous patronage by the represented, at will.

AmIFirstToThink 9y ago

>The only people who should be politicians are the ones who'd do it with no campaign funds and median wage. I wholeheartedly disagree. Representing people is full time job and must be paid living wages. People competing to represent people deserve to get funding to support living expenses while they run their campaigns. Do you want a factory worker delivering pizza at night to represent people like him? If so, then he needs funding so that he can put food on the table while he tries to get elected. If people don't crowdfund it then there is no other option but to seek lobbyist money. No different than soldiers and police and firefighters. The problem is that there is not enough turn over of representatives. More people being able to get living expenses crowdfunded mean there will be more competition for representatives, competition to win and keep supporters, not a competition to seek and win lobbying funding in support of re-election.

NTDF9 9y ago
>> Do you want a factory worker delivering pizza at night to represent people like him? If so, then he needs funding so that he can put food on the table while he tries to get elected. If people don't crowdfund it then there is no other option but to seek lobbyist money. No different than soldiers and police and firefighters. I want a person who is educated and has the desire to improve lives to represent people. The extreme rich are far too detached from reality, the poor are struggling and probably have enough problems to not have had the acumen and experience to deal with issues of others. A person who was rich or middle class before and is going to continue to earn middle income wages for this new job will only take this job because he/she cares, not because they see this as another path to wealth.