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Given the unknowns around Russia's influence including the DNC and Podesta hacks and coordinated release via Wikileaks, buying campaign ads on Facebook, and oth
by swivelmaster 9y ago
Given the unknowns around Russia's influence including the DNC and Podesta hacks and coordinated release via Wikileaks, buying campaign ads on Facebook, and other potential money-related shenanigans, "fair and square" might be up for debate.
- diggernet 9y agoHow many people do you know who changed their votes due to those things?
- SomeStupidPoint 9y agoA non-trivial number -- perhaps a few percent of my friends seem to have changed their behavior in response to what, in retrospect, look like Russian PSYOPs. Why, do you think none of your friends were impacted?
- diggernet 9y agoI was curious what the experience of others was on this. In my own experience, everyone I know who makes their politics known (obviously, selection bias) has been immovably in one camp or another.
- SomeStupidPoint 9y agoI didn't watch anyone switch camps, but I watched a lot of people get motivated or demotivated to vote, which has the same effect on the election -- so I saw a lot of people go from "party candidate" to "none" or "none" to "party-candidate". Considering how close the election was, those kinds of changes seem non-trivial on a national stage, particularly if they're all in a direction that benefits one candidate over another (and likely were the intended ones from PSYOPs campaigns).
- sremani 9y agoOutside of hacking the voting machines (which does not seem to be the centerpiece of investigations), anything that would make up for 1.1 billion worth of expenditure of "influence", I would love to know it.