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That constitution was written and signed under Military watch. Let's not forget Franco, a genocidal dictator, died of old age while still in power, he was not o
by tbatchelli 9y ago
That constitution was written and signed under Military watch. Let's not forget Franco, a genocidal dictator, died of old age while still in power, he was not ousted by democratic forces. And no one ever went to jail for the dictatorship. Many in power during the dictatorship remained in power for a long time after it "ended". The current constitution is a reflection of that time, where Spain was a nascent democracy but the military and judiciary (and oligarchies) were still controlled by Franco people. Times change, so do societies, and constitutions can be amended to reflect that. In fact Spain recently amended it's constitution overnight. They could also amend the constitution to allow for a vote, but they don't want to.
- teh_klev 9y agoThank you. People forget, democracy is a process, it doesn't just stop some time in the past.
- rbanffy 9y agoIt's a continuous, ongoing process of transforming societies. It's delicate and must be protected and cherished.
- egloeda 9y ago"That constitution was written and signed under Military watch." You're just lying. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refer%C3%A9ndum_para_la_ratificaci%C3%B3n_de_la_Constituci%C3%B3n_espa%C3%B1ola https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refer%C3%A9ndum_para_la_ratifi...
- icebraining 9y agoThat link doesn't confirm or deny parent's statement.
- mcdevilkiller 9y agoA lot of people were killed under Franco's mandate, but he wasn't genocidal, Hitler was (Jews, Gipsies, etc): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
- tbatchelli 9y agoYeah, well, every time we dig a ditch on a road we find more corpses, women and kids too. What do you call a lot, by the way? > Historians of the Spanish Civil War concur that the death toll of the White Terror (~58 000–400,000), because of its extent and duration,[12][12][13][14][1][2] was greater than the death toll of the Red Terror (38,000 – ~172,344 ).[15][16][17] The political repression of the White Terror was formal policy of the Nationalist forces during the Spanish Civil War, and of the government of Gen. Franco until 1945 — six years after the war's end in 1939.[18][19] In 2015, the government of Spain refused Spanish historians access to the pertinent government archives, open to foreign historians, which would allow determining the physical whereabouts and political fate of victims of the White Terror.[20] > The main goal of the White Terror was to terrify the civil population who opposed the coup,[88][89][90] eliminate the supporters of the Second Spanish Republic and the militants of the leftist parties,[91][92][93] and because of this, some historians have considered the White Terror a genocide.[94][95] In fact, one of the leaders of the coup, General Emilio Mola said:[96] > "It is necessary to spread terror. We have to create the impression of mastery eliminating without scruples or hesitation all those who do not think as we do. There can be no cowardice. If we hesitate one moment and fail to proceed with the greatest determination, we will not win. Anyone who helps or hides a Communist or a supporter of the Popular Front will be shot." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain)
- notspanishflu 9y agoThis is completely false. The Spanish Constitution was an agreement between every party, including the Communist Party (PCE). And Spanish people supported the Constitution with their vote on a large scale.
- tbatchelli 9y agoDid I say it wasn’t voted by a majority? EDIT: I should reword my question. What part of it you believe is false? Or is it all of it?