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I find that "thousands of trolls" generally amounts to "thousands of members of the public who responded to the statement I shouted out into public". The charac

I find that "thousands of trolls" generally amounts to "thousands of members of the public who responded to the statement I shouted out into public". The character of those responses doesn't even enter into it. Don't get me wrong, I see why it's a pain in the ass to wind up with a popular comment even if the comments are mostly positive (and especially if they're not not), but I think this is better handled by UI and rate limiting on notifications rather than the alternatives. >in some cases other people see the trolling about you even after you block it. Pardon my arrogance, but I don't believe it's your place to determine how other people are allowed to talk about you even if you've excused yourself from the conversation. Down that path lay dragons. For a quick example why, sub out "you" and "your" in the previous sentence for the name of any unpopular politician.

pjc50 9y ago
> It's not your place to determine how other people are allowed to talk about you even if you've excused yourself from the conversation Even if they're discussing whether you should be murdered?
- Karunamon 9y ago
  Was the reduction to the extreme really necessary? But okay, in that particular case, we have the ToS and laws regarding threatening behavior to fall back on. (And if I've unsubscribed from the conversation, I can't even see it anymore to be threatened by it) This problem does not require the extreme step of giving the subject of a conversation an unconditional veto on the conversation.
  - pjc50 9y ago
    > Was the reduction to the extreme really necessary? Well, we started with discussion of genocide at the top of the thread, so it's kind of in context. > giving the subject of a conversation an unconditional veto on the conversation. Isn't this the other extreme?
    - Karunamon 9y ago
      I may have misinterpreted your original comment. You said: Also, in some cases other people see the trolling about you even after you block it. ..which implies it's a negative that you don't have control over the (valueJudgmentOf: comments) about you after you've blocked the conversation. Was this incorrect?
      - pjc50 9y ago
        Yes, but that's not the same as unconditional veto. This is basically the situation where you'd want to appeal to a third party human.
        Karunamon 9y ago
        That's basically what we have now but with an extra step added.
- synicalx 9y ago
  In a lot of places, that would be illegal.

pjc50 9y ago

> It's not your place to determine how other people are allowed to talk about you even if you've excused yourself from the conversation Even if they're discussing whether you should be murdered?

Karunamon 9y ago
Was the reduction to the extreme really necessary? But okay, in that particular case, we have the ToS and laws regarding threatening behavior to fall back on. (And if I've unsubscribed from the conversation, I can't even see it anymore to be threatened by it) This problem does not require the extreme step of giving the subject of a conversation an unconditional veto on the conversation.
- pjc50 9y ago
  > Was the reduction to the extreme really necessary? Well, we started with discussion of genocide at the top of the thread, so it's kind of in context. > giving the subject of a conversation an unconditional veto on the conversation. Isn't this the other extreme?
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    I may have misinterpreted your original comment. You said: Also, in some cases other people see the trolling about you even after you block it. ..which implies it's a negative that you don't have control over the (valueJudgmentOf: comments) about you after you've blocked the conversation. Was this incorrect?
    - pjc50 9y ago
      Yes, but that's not the same as unconditional veto. This is basically the situation where you'd want to appeal to a third party human.
      - Karunamon 9y ago
        That's basically what we have now but with an extra step added.
synicalx 9y ago
In a lot of places, that would be illegal.