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I'm really having a hard time understanding what their target market is here. Most home users aren't going to pay full retail for cameras, hire a professional

I'm really having a hard time understanding what their target market is here. Most home users aren't going to pay full retail for cameras, hire a professional installer to put 1-4 cameras outside, then pay for cloud storage... or at least not without a huge amount of Support effort. Given their feature list, they aren't going to be able to compete with the business/enterprise market due to both having worse features AND being more expensive. (shameless plug: I work for a company making enterprise IP cameras, and both our cloud storage AND cameras are cheaper, while having way more features)

davidcollantes 9y ago
Where is the plug?
- jtraffic 9y ago
  Not the OP, but checking his HN profile turns this up: https://viaas.com/ https://viaas.com/
SomeHacker44 9y ago
I was very interested in seeing what made your cameras and plans cheaper... but was disappointed. VIAAS seems to charge $479/year for 30 days of 1080p video and $399 for the camera. I don't use Nest's new camera but I have two of their indoor cameras elsewhere, for which I pay $150/year for the first camera and $100/year for the second (I think) for 30 days video. They also have a $50/year plan for 7 days of video. It also sends me e-mail and APNS alerts when it senses motion or people. So, I don't really see how your parenthetical assertion is true - despite really wishing it were true. I have evaluated and intend to use a UniFi camera system at my home when I can get around to running the PoE wires.
- danielvinson 9y ago
  I'm an engineer, so I'm not the best at explaining how pricing works for larger companies, but most customers do not pay msrp. Our 30-day plan is $20/month msrp whereas Nest is $30/month. (Your Nest pricing is not current - you're probably grandfathered on that rate) Our main market is businesses with multiple locations who need role-based access and/or LDAP integration for cameras with cloud storage.

davidcollantes 9y ago

Where is the plug?

jtraffic 9y ago
Not the OP, but checking his HN profile turns this up: https://viaas.com/ https://viaas.com/

SomeHacker44 9y ago

I was very interested in seeing what made your cameras and plans cheaper... but was disappointed. VIAAS seems to charge $479/year for 30 days of 1080p video and $399 for the camera. I don't use Nest's new camera but I have two of their indoor cameras elsewhere, for which I pay $150/year for the first camera and $100/year for the second (I think) for 30 days video. They also have a $50/year plan for 7 days of video. It also sends me e-mail and APNS alerts when it senses motion or people. So, I don't really see how your parenthetical assertion is true - despite really wishing it were true. I have evaluated and intend to use a UniFi camera system at my home when I can get around to running the PoE wires.

danielvinson 9y ago
I'm an engineer, so I'm not the best at explaining how pricing works for larger companies, but most customers do not pay msrp. Our 30-day plan is $20/month msrp whereas Nest is $30/month. (Your Nest pricing is not current - you're probably grandfathered on that rate) Our main market is businesses with multiple locations who need role-based access and/or LDAP integration for cameras with cloud storage.