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Does it work off-cloud? Can I firewall it entirely behind my own LAN? If so, sold. I've spent so much time screwing around with generic Chinese hardware that'

by toufka 9y ago

Does it work off-cloud? Can I firewall it entirely behind my own LAN? If so, sold. I've spent so much time screwing around with generic Chinese hardware that's, well, sometimes great (and sometimes truly worthless). Most generic brands (that exist for 6 months at a time) have software/firmware that leaves much to be desired, and is sometimes outright broken, but at least more often than not at least implement (most) of an open-source IP-cam standard (unlike the fancy expensive cameras). But I have no interest in trading any sort of even theoretical access to video of my home for a fancy web interface: http://shodan.io/ http://shodan.io/

bitwize 9y ago
It's a Nest. Remember their thermostat? The interclouds went down and people lost heat.
- kodt 9y ago
  Have they fixed this issue yet? My neighbor with a Nest was just complaining that her house was so hot because the internet was down and the AC turned off.
  - olyjohn 9y ago
    Mine works fine without internet. You just can't control it remotely. People probably don't realize that the app doesn't connect across your home network. It will complain there's no internet connection, but you can still twist it and set the temp manually.
ryandrake 9y ago
Yea, cloud-only was the deal-breaker for me for Dropcam (now Nest). It just seems so silly and wasteful. You have a camera on your home LAN, uploading video out to a server somewhere, just so you can... download the video back to your home LAN for viewing??? WTF? Why can't I even have the option to operate it LAN-only? Just seems like a bizarre limitation from a product point of view. Obviously their business model depends on upwelling you cloud services.
- cvwright 9y ago
  The idea is that you can get alerts and view the photos/videos remotely when you're not at home. For example, when you're at work or on vacation. But for that, you might as well buy a cheaper camera and configure it yourself to upload to a cheaper service like CameraFTP [1]. It's run by some cloud storage provider, I forget which one. [1] https://www.cameraftp.com/ https://www.cameraftp.com/

by toufka 9y ago

bitwize 9y ago

It's a Nest. Remember their thermostat? The interclouds went down and people lost heat.

kodt 9y ago
Have they fixed this issue yet? My neighbor with a Nest was just complaining that her house was so hot because the internet was down and the AC turned off.
- olyjohn 9y ago
  Mine works fine without internet. You just can't control it remotely. People probably don't realize that the app doesn't connect across your home network. It will complain there's no internet connection, but you can still twist it and set the temp manually.

ryandrake 9y ago

Yea, cloud-only was the deal-breaker for me for Dropcam (now Nest). It just seems so silly and wasteful. You have a camera on your home LAN, uploading video out to a server somewhere, just so you can... download the video back to your home LAN for viewing??? WTF? Why can't I even have the option to operate it LAN-only? Just seems like a bizarre limitation from a product point of view. Obviously their business model depends on upwelling you cloud services.

cvwright 9y ago
The idea is that you can get alerts and view the photos/videos remotely when you're not at home. For example, when you're at work or on vacation. But for that, you might as well buy a cheaper camera and configure it yourself to upload to a cheaper service like CameraFTP [1]. It's run by some cloud storage provider, I forget which one. [1] https://www.cameraftp.com/ https://www.cameraftp.com/