We're definitely writing past each other. > I never felt typing speed or special text transformation shortcuts being my limiting factor. > > ... > > Speed of

We're definitely writing past each other. > I never felt typing speed or special text transformation shortcuts being my limiting factor. > > ... > > Speed of navigating between files (which is even better in ST than in Vim, vim, at least on the Mac, takes more 100s of ms to open a file, and NerdTree is crap) and finding the stuff I want matters more to me. I wasn't making any claims about the benefits of Vim bindings for my job as a whole. But why stop there? It's probably also not the "limiting factor" for me as human being. But it's definitely a limiting factor when I'm writing and editing text. > I also don't buy the "but doing it with a shortcut/motor skills frees my mind from having to think about editing etc". As I've said, I've used Vim for 15+ years (still do, a decade after every time I'm in a shell). I've known all these shortcuts, used them, etc. Haven't seen it make any great difference in that respect. I'd take better code navigation, linting support, etc over text wrangling features any day. > > (Besides I can do it just fine in ST anyway with Vintageous/Six/etc). Above is even more that's besides the point I was making. I'd take good code navigation over Vim key bindings too. I wasn't saying Vim key bindings are better than anything other than not having them. And then you basically make my point for me: > (Besides I can do it just fine in ST anyway with Vintageous/Six/etc). I do that too; not in ST, but in the IDEs, etc. that I use (e.g. Visual Studio, SQL Server Management Studio, Google Chrome). I assume you do for the same reason I do, i.e. you like the keybindings. I also find the keybindings generally useful and faster than not having them. I do agree with the gist of your comment that Vim itself isn't particularly great compared to tools with features like code navigation. I don't use any Vim plugins for example tho I've tried a few.