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I have always wondered about IPFS and its relationship with DNS. What's stopping authoritarian entity from poisoning/redirecting ipfs.io to static page?

by didip 9y ago

detaro 9y ago
Nothing, but that would hopefully primarily encourage people to set up IPFS clients themselves instead of relying on the public bridge. (Which is IMHO one of the weaknesses of IPFS, that they haven't made that more prominent/easier, through browser plugins or a dedicated IPFS-browser. Compare to e.g. the publicity boost Dat got from Beaker Browser)
- StavrosK 9y ago
  This is a very nice Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ipfs-station/kckhgoigikkadogfdiojcblegfhdnjei https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ipfs-station/kckhg... It'll redirect all IPFS URLs to your local daemon.
  - detaro 9y ago
    Ohh, interesting, that seems to have most of the things I was looking for. Not sure why I missed it when I went looking for one recently. Thanks!
    - StavrosK 9y ago
      No problem, I had missed it too but someone here pointed me to it. I wish we had one for Firefox as well!
      - throwanem 9y ago
        What stops that one from running in Firefox? I haven't dug into its code, but nothing in its description or screenshots looks like the FF web extension implementation shouldn't support it. I mean, it's just a little chrome, a content script doing link rewrites, and an occasional HTTP request to fetch status info, yeah?
        StavrosK 9y ago
        Nothing stops it, I guess it's just that nobody has bothered to make one yet. It's works exactly as you describe, though, pretty simple.
        throwanem 9y ago
        https://www.ghacks.net/2016/05/23/install-google-chrome-extensions-firefox/ https://www.ghacks.net/2016/05/23/install-google-chrome-exte... might be worth a look. Haven't tried it, but the claim is that it mechanically transforms Chrome extension metadata and containers into Firefox's formats, and supports automatic signing via AMO for permanent installation. Assuming that, the rest should Just Work modulo possibly still incomplete WebEx API support in Firefox. If you try it, I wouldn't mind hearing how you get on.
        StavrosK 9y ago
        Holy hell, it just worked! That's amazing, thank you for that. I bet it helps that the extension is just redirecting and collecting stats, but everything seems to work fine!
        throwanem 9y ago
        That's great to hear! Most welcome, and glad to know there's a plausible option - with the rapid deprecation of the old API, this might save a lot of time. (I can't rely on replacing all my old extensions with shell oneliners, after all...)
StavrosK 9y ago
Nothing, but what does it matter? There are loads of public gateways. I run one at https://www.eternum.io https://www.eternum.io. Also, running your own node is trivial.
- mirimir 9y ago
  It's pretty trivial to run an IPFS gateway as a Tor hidden service. Also IPFS branches into Tor OnionCat's IPv6 /64. And nodes that link resources between clearnet and OnionCat /64. Or any other overlay network.

I have always wondered about IPFS and its relationship with DNS. What's stopping authoritarian entity from poisoning/redirecting ipfs.io to static page?

by didip 9y ago

I have always wondered about IPFS and its relationship with DNS. What's stopping authoritarian entity from poisoning/redirecting ipfs.io to static page?

detaro 9y ago

Nothing, but that would hopefully primarily encourage people to set up IPFS clients themselves instead of relying on the public bridge. (Which is IMHO one of the weaknesses of IPFS, that they haven't made that more prominent/easier, through browser plugins or a dedicated IPFS-browser. Compare to e.g. the publicity boost Dat got from Beaker Browser)

StavrosK 9y ago
This is a very nice Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ipfs-station/kckhgoigikkadogfdiojcblegfhdnjei https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ipfs-station/kckhg... It'll redirect all IPFS URLs to your local daemon.
- detaro 9y ago
  Ohh, interesting, that seems to have most of the things I was looking for. Not sure why I missed it when I went looking for one recently. Thanks!
  - StavrosK 9y ago
    No problem, I had missed it too but someone here pointed me to it. I wish we had one for Firefox as well!
    - throwanem 9y ago
      What stops that one from running in Firefox? I haven't dug into its code, but nothing in its description or screenshots looks like the FF web extension implementation shouldn't support it. I mean, it's just a little chrome, a content script doing link rewrites, and an occasional HTTP request to fetch status info, yeah?
      - StavrosK 9y ago
        Nothing stops it, I guess it's just that nobody has bothered to make one yet. It's works exactly as you describe, though, pretty simple.
        throwanem 9y ago
        https://www.ghacks.net/2016/05/23/install-google-chrome-extensions-firefox/ https://www.ghacks.net/2016/05/23/install-google-chrome-exte... might be worth a look. Haven't tried it, but the claim is that it mechanically transforms Chrome extension metadata and containers into Firefox's formats, and supports automatic signing via AMO for permanent installation. Assuming that, the rest should Just Work modulo possibly still incomplete WebEx API support in Firefox. If you try it, I wouldn't mind hearing how you get on.
        StavrosK 9y ago
        Holy hell, it just worked! That's amazing, thank you for that. I bet it helps that the extension is just redirecting and collecting stats, but everything seems to work fine!
        throwanem 9y ago
        That's great to hear! Most welcome, and glad to know there's a plausible option - with the rapid deprecation of the old API, this might save a lot of time. (I can't rely on replacing all my old extensions with shell oneliners, after all...)

StavrosK 9y ago

Nothing, but what does it matter? There are loads of public gateways. I run one at https://www.eternum.io https://www.eternum.io. Also, running your own node is trivial.

mirimir 9y ago
It's pretty trivial to run an IPFS gateway as a Tor hidden service. Also IPFS branches into Tor OnionCat's IPv6 /64. And nodes that link resources between clearnet and OnionCat /64. Or any other overlay network.