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I won't buy Honest Tea because of this: http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/09/15/honest-tea-not-so-honest/ http://anerroroccurredwhilep

by drcode 16y ago

I won't buy Honest Tea because of this: http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/09/15/honest-tea-not-so-honest/ http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/...

absconditus 16y ago
The new bottle is designed to use less plastic. The design of the bottom of the bottle is necessary to the bottle's structure. "Have your plastic bottles changed size? Unlike other companies that are reducing the size of their products, ours still remains 16.9 ounces. We redesigned the bottle to use 22% less plastic and therefore lower our carbon footprint and utilize fewer natural resources. You’re still getting the exact same volume as before, just with a new design to help with stability and strength while having less plastic." http://www.honesttea.com/mission/faqs/info/#15 http://www.honesttea.com/mission/faqs/info/#15
- someone_here 16y ago
  They should tape a sample tea bag to the bottom.
- BrandonM 16y ago
  An even more thorough explanation comes from Barry Nalebuff (Cofounder and Chairman) in the comments (http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/09/15/honest-tea-not-so-honest/#comment-567 http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/...): When you pick the name Honest, you have to live up to the name. We recently switched to a thinner bottle, one which is 22% lighter. This saves us money and saves the world resources. The only problem is that the thinner bottle was getting dented. In fact, this was a big problem that forced us to redesign the bottle. To help keep its shape, the inside must be under pressure. When the bottle is filled with hot tea, the liquid expands and the plug on the bottom pops out. (If you squeeze real hard, you can make this happen.) Then as the tea cools, the plug pops back in and creates the pressure on the inside that prevents the bottles from being damaged. The thinner plastic means we needed much more pressure and hence a much bigger plug. There really is 16.9 oz. inside and we aren’t trying to pull a fast one. But I can see how you could get confused or could think that we are trying to be deceptive. Taller and thinner still means lots less material. That said, we clearly need to do a better job explaining why the bottle has this design. In the next label run we will definitely say something to explain this to our customers. I hope that makes you feel that you can still trust us and will stick with us. And thanks for helping keep us honest.
gjm11 16y ago
Maaaan, that's a lot of spammy advertising links at the start of the page. They all go to what looks like a site that doesn't know it's hosting spammy nonsense, and has presumably been hacked. So is AEOWPTD.com in on the hackery, or has it been hacked too? I don't see any other obvious sign of hackedness on the AEOWPTD page.
- jerf 16y ago
  You must be using NoScript. That's a brand of worm that runs around adding itself to pages, then uses Javascript to hide itself. Someone must have decided this was likely to slip past the search engines; I have no idea if it works. Those of use who use NoScript then see the corrupted page.
sprout 16y ago
Wow, that site has the most obnoxious SEO bullshit. (Anyone with noscript will see a host of search keywords in place of an article, doubtless intended to hoodwink spiders.)
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barrkel 16y ago
From the link you quote: "Even though they contain the same amount of tea, the one of the left looks larger!" You won't buy it because... you want your bottles to look small? It doesn't seem to be a problem to me unless the two are sold side by side at different prices. The bottle contains 500ml, which in Europe is the normal size for e.g. a bottle of Coke. I don't know what it's competing with in the US. It seems that the design is for stacking the bottles.

by drcode 16y ago

I won't buy Honest Tea because of this: http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/09/15/honest-tea-not-so-honest/ http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/...

absconditus 16y ago

The new bottle is designed to use less plastic. The design of the bottom of the bottle is necessary to the bottle's structure. "Have your plastic bottles changed size? Unlike other companies that are reducing the size of their products, ours still remains 16.9 ounces. We redesigned the bottle to use 22% less plastic and therefore lower our carbon footprint and utilize fewer natural resources. You’re still getting the exact same volume as before, just with a new design to help with stability and strength while having less plastic." http://www.honesttea.com/mission/faqs/info/#15 http://www.honesttea.com/mission/faqs/info/#15

someone_here 16y ago
They should tape a sample tea bag to the bottom.
BrandonM 16y ago
An even more thorough explanation comes from Barry Nalebuff (Cofounder and Chairman) in the comments (http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/09/15/honest-tea-not-so-honest/#comment-567 http://anerroroccurredwhileprocessingthisdirective.com/2009/...): When you pick the name Honest, you have to live up to the name. We recently switched to a thinner bottle, one which is 22% lighter. This saves us money and saves the world resources. The only problem is that the thinner bottle was getting dented. In fact, this was a big problem that forced us to redesign the bottle. To help keep its shape, the inside must be under pressure. When the bottle is filled with hot tea, the liquid expands and the plug on the bottom pops out. (If you squeeze real hard, you can make this happen.) Then as the tea cools, the plug pops back in and creates the pressure on the inside that prevents the bottles from being damaged. The thinner plastic means we needed much more pressure and hence a much bigger plug. There really is 16.9 oz. inside and we aren’t trying to pull a fast one. But I can see how you could get confused or could think that we are trying to be deceptive. Taller and thinner still means lots less material. That said, we clearly need to do a better job explaining why the bottle has this design. In the next label run we will definitely say something to explain this to our customers. I hope that makes you feel that you can still trust us and will stick with us. And thanks for helping keep us honest.

gjm11 16y ago

Maaaan, that's a lot of spammy advertising links at the start of the page. They all go to what looks like a site that doesn't know it's hosting spammy nonsense, and has presumably been hacked. So is AEOWPTD.com in on the hackery, or has it been hacked too? I don't see any other obvious sign of hackedness on the AEOWPTD page.

jerf 16y ago
You must be using NoScript. That's a brand of worm that runs around adding itself to pages, then uses Javascript to hide itself. Someone must have decided this was likely to slip past the search engines; I have no idea if it works. Those of use who use NoScript then see the corrupted page.

sprout 16y ago

Wow, that site has the most obnoxious SEO bullshit. (Anyone with noscript will see a host of search keywords in place of an article, doubtless intended to hoodwink spiders.)

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barrkel 16y ago

From the link you quote: "Even though they contain the same amount of tea, the one of the left looks larger!" You won't buy it because... you want your bottles to look small? It doesn't seem to be a problem to me unless the two are sold side by side at different prices. The bottle contains 500ml, which in Europe is the normal size for e.g. a bottle of Coke. I don't know what it's competing with in the US. It seems that the design is for stacking the bottles.