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C++ has John Carmack, PHP has Zuckerberg, Lisp has Paul Graham. Does anyone know of any good role models to look up to in the ASP.NET world? As childish as it m

by tw1010 9y ago

C++ has John Carmack, PHP has Zuckerberg, Lisp has Paul Graham. Does anyone know of any good role models to look up to in the ASP.NET world? As childish as it might sound, that has honestly been a sticking point preventing me to be able to really get into all this.

mixedCase 9y ago
Jon Skeet?
dysoco 9y ago
Not sure about ASP.NET but Jon Skeet is pretty much the C#/.NET guru in the internet: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/9134/jon-skeet-facts https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/9134/jon-skeet-fact...
- NicoJuicy 9y ago
  +1 for Jon Skeet, he's the Chuck Norris from dot net. https://stackoverflow.com/users/22656/jon-skeet https://stackoverflow.com/users/22656/jon-skeet . Then you have also Scott Hanselman, a known .net evangelist: https://www.hanselman.com/ https://www.hanselman.com/ and Scott Guthrie
revelation 9y ago
That's not an exact match with what you are looking for, but try the ASP NET Community Standup which covers lots of "people doing stuff with (ASP) Core": https://live.asp.net/ https://live.asp.net/
0xbear 9y ago
Anders Hejlsberg is basically the living legend of programming language design.
AdeptusAquinas 9y ago
Anders Hejlsberg for C# I guess? ASP.NET as a framework doesn't have any 'celebrity personalities' that I am aware of, but then it doesn't really need any. Its a good framework, especially with the dotnet core rewrite; you should try it! Put it on Docker and run it on Linux for fun :)
- maxxxxx 9y ago
  Has Hejlsberg ever written a book? He must have a lot of valuable insight to share. I think part of the success of C++ and C was that their developers are good writers. K&R is phenomenal and Stoustroup's book are excellent too.
  - AdeptusAquinas 9y ago
    Not sure, aside from his books on the C# language. But the great thing about Hejlsberg and his team is that the evolution of the language is really transparent, and rapid: proposals for C# 8 (possibly 2019/2020): https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/milestone/8 https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/milestone/8
  - ledgerdev 9y ago
    Not a book, some great insights here. https://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/anders+hejlsberg https://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/anders+hejlsberg
- nurettin 9y ago
  Hejlsberg is a great inspiration for Delphi as well. A person is rarely this influential in multiple domains.
snarfy 9y ago
For ASP.NET - Scott Hanselman
- johnny_reilly 9y ago
  I second that and would add Damien Edwards and David Fowler (who would be notable if just for SignalR but have done so much more)
UK-AL 9y ago
Anders Hejlsberg Scott Hanselman But some interesting people to follow are Jimmy bogard, greg young, David Fowler.
- markdoubleyou 9y ago
  Good list. I'd also add Marc Gravell and Stephen Cleary. I've found that I rarely read Hanselman's stuff any more... he's great if you're playing around with bleeding-edge ASP.NET Core on Linux on Azure, but not if you're trying to dig into the guts of C#. (I was so burned by the so-called "release candidates" of ASP.NET Core that I stopped following that vein of blogger.)
cholantesh 9y ago
Jon Skeet Phil Haack Scotts Hanselman, Guthrie, and Allen
wolco 9y ago
Zuckerberg for hack. Jeffrey Way, Tyler Otwell are the stars of the php world thrse days.
jackmott 9y ago
the guys at stackoverflow are great. ben adams also.
snomad 9y ago
There are some really good talks on a wide variety of .net things at https://dotnetrocks.com/ https://dotnetrocks.com/ For ASP, David Fowler without a doubt, also recommend Barry Dorans and Scott Sauber
paulczy 9y ago
This Twitter list was advertised a few days ago. https://twitter.com/spboyer/lists/cloud-developer-advocates https://twitter.com/spboyer/lists/cloud-developer-advocates
burmask 9y ago
Jeff Atwood of coding horror is also an asp.net advocate. Stack Overflow, written in asp.net, was designed by Jeff. https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/02/17/stack-overflow-the-architecture-2016-edition/ https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/02/17/stack-overflow-the-ar...
- nbarbettini 9y ago
  That StackOverflow runs on .NET is one of my favorite little-known facts.
jongalloway2 9y ago
First off, you picked a great time to ask this question because this week there's a free, online conference going on at https://www.dotnetconf.net/ https://www.dotnetconf.net/. There's a lot of good ASP.NET Core content, so you can see for yourself. One of my favorite things about the ASP.NET team is that a lot of them were community leaders - speakers, writers, open source library authors, etc. - before being hired at Microsoft. So it's hard to pick just one or two community leaders on the team, as pretty much everyone regularly speaks at conferences, publishes open source code, blogs, etc. So it's really hard to make a short list! Hopefully this is still useful to someone. As several others have mentioned, you really should start with Scott Hanselman (https://www.hanselman.com/ https://www.hanselman.com/ and @shanselman). [Disclaimer: he's my boss, but I joined his team because I was a big fan long before either of us worked at Microsoft] The ASP.NET Weekly Community Standup is a great place to connect both with the team and with the leading members of the developer community. It's at https://live.asp.net/ https://live.asp.net/ with Damian Edwards, Scott Hanselman and me. Damian Edwards (https://twitter.com/damianedwards https://twitter.com/damianedwards) is the program manager for the ASP.NET team. During the show, I usually share 10ish links to top posts, open source projects, etc. by the community. We feel like the ASP.NET Community is made up of developers both inside and out of Microsoft, so you'll see a mix. The links are usually in the show notes, and we also tweet the links out daily at @aspnet. I'm not going to risk making a list because I don't want to leave anyone off - there are too many for me to even try to pick favorites! Next, check out the "official" Web Dev blog: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/. We have a general rule that all posts are signed by actual people, not "the ___ team", so you can see who's working directly on specific topics. You'll definitely see a lot of posts by Jeff Fritz (my team mate), who (in addition to program managing several features) does a ton of work to write up release posts, organize content for conferences, etc. I think of David Fowler (https://twitter.com/davidfowl https://twitter.com/davidfowl) as the "crazy genius" on the team. He and Damian wrote SignalR, he worked on prototyping some of the very early work that became ASP.NET Core (and .NET Core all up), etc. Check out this video to see what I mean: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/NDC/NDC-Oslo-2017/BRK06 https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/NDC/NDC-Oslo-2017/BRK06 For front end dev, make sure you follow Mads Kristensen (https://twitter.com/mkristensen https://twitter.com/mkristensen) and Steve Sanderson (https://twitter.com/StevenSanderson https://twitter.com/StevenSanderson). Mads is a program manager for web developer tools in Visual Studio, and also writes a ton of open source Visual Studio extensions for web developers (https://github.com/madskristensen https://github.com/madskristensen) and builds things like http://webdevchecklist.com/ http://webdevchecklist.com/. Steve is always pushing the boundaries of front end development, both with things like JavaScriptServices (https://github.com/aspnet/JavaScriptServices https://github.com/aspnet/JavaScriptServices, now shipping in the Visual Studio 2017 Angular / React project templates) and more recently with Blazor (https://github.com/SteveSanderson/Blazor https://github.com/SteveSanderson/Blazor - .NET code running in the browser via Web Assembly). You'll also see Glenn Condron (https://twitter.com/condrong https://twitter.com/condrong) listed on several of the recent Web Dev blog posts. He covers a lot of deep back end tech, including a lot of stuff with ASP.NET Core on Docker. You can see quick (5-10 minute) interviews with most of those people, as well as a lot of other people on the .NET team, on a show that Maria Naggaga (https://twitter.com/ladynaggaga https://twitter.com/ladynaggaga) and I started up recently called Code Conversations (https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Code-Conversations https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Code-Conversations). These are short, code focused interviews you can watch while your code is compiling and hopefully put to work right away. Finally, please ping me at @jongalloway if I can help connect you with anyone or if you're having trouble finding information, code samples, etc. I'm happy to help!
zerr 9y ago
Sad to disappoint you but Carmack, while obviously one of the best engineers out there, has nothing to do with C++.

by tw1010 9y ago

mixedCase 9y ago

Jon Skeet?

dysoco 9y ago

Not sure about ASP.NET but Jon Skeet is pretty much the C#/.NET guru in the internet: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/9134/jon-skeet-facts https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/9134/jon-skeet-fact...

NicoJuicy 9y ago
+1 for Jon Skeet, he's the Chuck Norris from dot net. https://stackoverflow.com/users/22656/jon-skeet https://stackoverflow.com/users/22656/jon-skeet . Then you have also Scott Hanselman, a known .net evangelist: https://www.hanselman.com/ https://www.hanselman.com/ and Scott Guthrie

revelation 9y ago

That's not an exact match with what you are looking for, but try the ASP NET Community Standup which covers lots of "people doing stuff with (ASP) Core": https://live.asp.net/ https://live.asp.net/

0xbear 9y ago

Anders Hejlsberg is basically the living legend of programming language design.

AdeptusAquinas 9y ago

Anders Hejlsberg for C# I guess? ASP.NET as a framework doesn't have any 'celebrity personalities' that I am aware of, but then it doesn't really need any. Its a good framework, especially with the dotnet core rewrite; you should try it! Put it on Docker and run it on Linux for fun :)

maxxxxx 9y ago
Has Hejlsberg ever written a book? He must have a lot of valuable insight to share. I think part of the success of C++ and C was that their developers are good writers. K&R is phenomenal and Stoustroup's book are excellent too.
- AdeptusAquinas 9y ago
  Not sure, aside from his books on the C# language. But the great thing about Hejlsberg and his team is that the evolution of the language is really transparent, and rapid: proposals for C# 8 (possibly 2019/2020): https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/milestone/8 https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/milestone/8
- ledgerdev 9y ago
  Not a book, some great insights here. https://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/anders+hejlsberg https://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/anders+hejlsberg
nurettin 9y ago
Hejlsberg is a great inspiration for Delphi as well. A person is rarely this influential in multiple domains.

snarfy 9y ago

For ASP.NET - Scott Hanselman

johnny_reilly 9y ago
I second that and would add Damien Edwards and David Fowler (who would be notable if just for SignalR but have done so much more)

UK-AL 9y ago

Anders Hejlsberg Scott Hanselman But some interesting people to follow are Jimmy bogard, greg young, David Fowler.

markdoubleyou 9y ago
Good list. I'd also add Marc Gravell and Stephen Cleary. I've found that I rarely read Hanselman's stuff any more... he's great if you're playing around with bleeding-edge ASP.NET Core on Linux on Azure, but not if you're trying to dig into the guts of C#. (I was so burned by the so-called "release candidates" of ASP.NET Core that I stopped following that vein of blogger.)

cholantesh 9y ago

Jon Skeet Phil Haack Scotts Hanselman, Guthrie, and Allen

wolco 9y ago

Zuckerberg for hack. Jeffrey Way, Tyler Otwell are the stars of the php world thrse days.

jackmott 9y ago

the guys at stackoverflow are great. ben adams also.

snomad 9y ago

There are some really good talks on a wide variety of .net things at https://dotnetrocks.com/ https://dotnetrocks.com/ For ASP, David Fowler without a doubt, also recommend Barry Dorans and Scott Sauber

paulczy 9y ago

This Twitter list was advertised a few days ago. https://twitter.com/spboyer/lists/cloud-developer-advocates https://twitter.com/spboyer/lists/cloud-developer-advocates

burmask 9y ago

Jeff Atwood of coding horror is also an asp.net advocate. Stack Overflow, written in asp.net, was designed by Jeff. https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/02/17/stack-overflow-the-architecture-2016-edition/ https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/02/17/stack-overflow-the-ar...

nbarbettini 9y ago
That StackOverflow runs on .NET is one of my favorite little-known facts.

jongalloway2 9y ago

First off, you picked a great time to ask this question because this week there's a free, online conference going on at https://www.dotnetconf.net/ https://www.dotnetconf.net/. There's a lot of good ASP.NET Core content, so you can see for yourself. One of my favorite things about the ASP.NET team is that a lot of them were community leaders - speakers, writers, open source library authors, etc. - before being hired at Microsoft. So it's hard to pick just one or two community leaders on the team, as pretty much everyone regularly speaks at conferences, publishes open source code, blogs, etc. So it's really hard to make a short list! Hopefully this is still useful to someone. As several others have mentioned, you really should start with Scott Hanselman (https://www.hanselman.com/ https://www.hanselman.com/ and @shanselman). [Disclaimer: he's my boss, but I joined his team because I was a big fan long before either of us worked at Microsoft] The ASP.NET Weekly Community Standup is a great place to connect both with the team and with the leading members of the developer community. It's at https://live.asp.net/ https://live.asp.net/ with Damian Edwards, Scott Hanselman and me. Damian Edwards (https://twitter.com/damianedwards https://twitter.com/damianedwards) is the program manager for the ASP.NET team. During the show, I usually share 10ish links to top posts, open source projects, etc. by the community. We feel like the ASP.NET Community is made up of developers both inside and out of Microsoft, so you'll see a mix. The links are usually in the show notes, and we also tweet the links out daily at @aspnet. I'm not going to risk making a list because I don't want to leave anyone off - there are too many for me to even try to pick favorites! Next, check out the "official" Web Dev blog: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/. We have a general rule that all posts are signed by actual people, not "the ___ team", so you can see who's working directly on specific topics. You'll definitely see a lot of posts by Jeff Fritz (my team mate), who (in addition to program managing several features) does a ton of work to write up release posts, organize content for conferences, etc. I think of David Fowler (https://twitter.com/davidfowl https://twitter.com/davidfowl) as the "crazy genius" on the team. He and Damian wrote SignalR, he worked on prototyping some of the very early work that became ASP.NET Core (and .NET Core all up), etc. Check out this video to see what I mean: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/NDC/NDC-Oslo-2017/BRK06 https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/NDC/NDC-Oslo-2017/BRK06 For front end dev, make sure you follow Mads Kristensen (https://twitter.com/mkristensen https://twitter.com/mkristensen) and Steve Sanderson (https://twitter.com/StevenSanderson https://twitter.com/StevenSanderson). Mads is a program manager for web developer tools in Visual Studio, and also writes a ton of open source Visual Studio extensions for web developers (https://github.com/madskristensen https://github.com/madskristensen) and builds things like http://webdevchecklist.com/ http://webdevchecklist.com/. Steve is always pushing the boundaries of front end development, both with things like JavaScriptServices (https://github.com/aspnet/JavaScriptServices https://github.com/aspnet/JavaScriptServices, now shipping in the Visual Studio 2017 Angular / React project templates) and more recently with Blazor (https://github.com/SteveSanderson/Blazor https://github.com/SteveSanderson/Blazor - .NET code running in the browser via Web Assembly). You'll also see Glenn Condron (https://twitter.com/condrong https://twitter.com/condrong) listed on several of the recent Web Dev blog posts. He covers a lot of deep back end tech, including a lot of stuff with ASP.NET Core on Docker. You can see quick (5-10 minute) interviews with most of those people, as well as a lot of other people on the .NET team, on a show that Maria Naggaga (https://twitter.com/ladynaggaga https://twitter.com/ladynaggaga) and I started up recently called Code Conversations (https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Code-Conversations https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Code-Conversations). These are short, code focused interviews you can watch while your code is compiling and hopefully put to work right away. Finally, please ping me at @jongalloway if I can help connect you with anyone or if you're having trouble finding information, code samples, etc. I'm happy to help!

zerr 9y ago

Sad to disappoint you but Carmack, while obviously one of the best engineers out there, has nothing to do with C++.