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the "no headphone jack" thing seemed pretty evil to me. also, all of the monopolistic app store practices really aren't awesome. the new specs for the Mac Book

by make3 9y ago

the "no headphone jack" thing seemed pretty evil to me. also, all of the monopolistic app store practices really aren't awesome. the new specs for the Mac Book pro are also a joke for the price, and wtf is that touch bar crap. also, paying 800-1000$ for a phone is ridiculous

Spivak 9y ago
So while Google is invading every single aspect of your private life, following you on every site you visit, and mining your data for engagement and advertising, Apple is... charging too much? - Also the Google Pixel is $749.
- dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
  > So while Google is invading every single aspect of your private life, following you on every site you visit, and mining your data for engagement and advertising, Apple is... charging too much? Yes, of course. These two statements are not mutually exclusive.
Cenk 9y ago
I think calling the removal of the headphone jack "evil" is stretching it a bit
abritinthebay 9y ago
> the "no headphone jack" thing seemed pretty evil to me. Ignoring the hyperbole ("evil"? Really?) all removing the headphone jack was was proactively responding to market forces (because BT headphones have outsold wired for a while now) as it gave them more leeway in industrial design (the port is large and repeats functionality the other port already has anyhow). > all of the monopolistic app store practices really aren't awesome. You don't understand what "monopolistic" practices are. Sorry. Apple controls their own platform but that's not monopolistic. > the new specs for the Mac Book pro are also a joke for the price Not if you compare like for like it's not. Sorry, doesn't hold up under even a cursory examination of the competition. > wtf is that touch bar crap. Awesome is what it is - I have one and it's freaking great. > also, paying 800-1000$ for a phone is ridiculous That's literally the price range of most major high-end smart phones (ok, $700-$1000, but still). The flagship phones from Samsung, HTC, and Huawei are in that range. You have to go to LG or Oppo (much much smaller sales and they are selling at a loss) to get below that (and only into the $600 range, even then).
mikeash 9y ago
I don't like the removal of the headphone jack, but how is it "evil"? They even include an adapter with the phone!
scarface74 9y ago
How is the lack of a headphone jack "evil"? They support standard Bluetooth headphones and come with an adapter in the box. Was it also evil when they got rid of the Ethernet port and forced users to either use Wifi or get an adapter?

by make3 9y ago

Spivak 9y ago

So while Google is invading every single aspect of your private life, following you on every site you visit, and mining your data for engagement and advertising, Apple is... charging too much? - Also the Google Pixel is $749.

dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
> So while Google is invading every single aspect of your private life, following you on every site you visit, and mining your data for engagement and advertising, Apple is... charging too much? Yes, of course. These two statements are not mutually exclusive.

Cenk 9y ago

I think calling the removal of the headphone jack "evil" is stretching it a bit

abritinthebay 9y ago

> the "no headphone jack" thing seemed pretty evil to me. Ignoring the hyperbole ("evil"? Really?) all removing the headphone jack was was proactively responding to market forces (because BT headphones have outsold wired for a while now) as it gave them more leeway in industrial design (the port is large and repeats functionality the other port already has anyhow). > all of the monopolistic app store practices really aren't awesome. You don't understand what "monopolistic" practices are. Sorry. Apple controls their own platform but that's not monopolistic. > the new specs for the Mac Book pro are also a joke for the price Not if you compare like for like it's not. Sorry, doesn't hold up under even a cursory examination of the competition. > wtf is that touch bar crap. Awesome is what it is - I have one and it's freaking great. > also, paying 800-1000$ for a phone is ridiculous That's literally the price range of most major high-end smart phones (ok, $700-$1000, but still). The flagship phones from Samsung, HTC, and Huawei are in that range. You have to go to LG or Oppo (much much smaller sales and they are selling at a loss) to get below that (and only into the $600 range, even then).

mikeash 9y ago

I don't like the removal of the headphone jack, but how is it "evil"? They even include an adapter with the phone!

scarface74 9y ago

How is the lack of a headphone jack "evil"? They support standard Bluetooth headphones and come with an adapter in the box. Was it also evil when they got rid of the Ethernet port and forced users to either use Wifi or get an adapter?