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> There's unlikely to be a desktop client which is actually usable Check out eul, it's a native desktop client for all major messaging platforms. Signal suppor

> There's unlikely to be a desktop client which is actually usable Check out eul, it's a native desktop client for all major messaging platforms. Signal support is coming in October. It's only 4 MB, and it can handle thousands of messages without lag. https://eul.im https://eul.im

faitswulff 9y ago
This reminds me of when I used Trillian IM/Pidgin/Meebo back in the day. Everything old is new again!
- amedvednikov 9y ago
  And Miranda!
  - Dolores12 9y ago
    still using miranda-ng with OTR plugin.
  - StavrosK 9y ago
    Man, Miranda was so fantastic. Miranda and Winamp are the only two programs I miss from my Windows days.
    - Toast_25 9y ago
      Music Bee is pretty good. Not sure if it's still around though, I mostly listen to music on my phone/youtube nowadays and work doesn't let me download music to my computer.
anc84 9y ago
How do you plan to maintain it? No ads, full privacy, how will you eat? Why is it not free and open-source?
- dTal 9y ago
  Agreed. The polish, development schedule, and binary-only distribution all say "commercial software", but the lack of license or obvious commercial strategy say "what's going on here". Looking at your comment history (on both your accounts), you say you plan to open-source it, but you're not sure under what license, and you also hope to make money off it but you're not sure how - possibly through a "paid option"? I commend your effort, but until the exact nature of the project is settled, I would expect confusion and reluctance on the part of your potential users. Personally, I would never use a secure messenger I couldn't compile myself. Some previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14778263 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14778263 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15209790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15209790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15081269 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15081269
  - amedvednikov 9y ago
    Good points, I'll make the strategy more clear now that I also have a more clear picture.
- amedvednikov 9y ago
  There is going to be a freemium model. I'm working on setting up a company, this should be done by the end of the month.
  - rdl 9y ago
    This sounds great; I'm sure people on HN would be happy to help out if you have any questions.
superkuh 9y ago
> all major platforms No IRC.
- amedvednikov 9y ago
  Yes IRC! It's just not listed on the home page, I'll fix that.
problems 9y ago
Yeah, just go ahead and use some random closed-source IM tool for your secure messaging - seems like a great idea.
StavrosK 9y ago
Seems to only be 4 MB because it downloads 100 MB of "embedded browser" when you first run it. I smell an Electron.
- mi100hael 9y ago
  "native" > doctor_evil_quote_fingers.jpg
- amedvednikov 9y ago
  It's about 40 MB compressed, and it's only used for authentication. The app will work without it. I'm really sad it has to be downloaded, but there's no other way to do authentication. Will switch to Servo once it's ready, it's only ~20 MB.

faitswulff 9y ago

This reminds me of when I used Trillian IM/Pidgin/Meebo back in the day. Everything old is new again!

amedvednikov 9y ago
And Miranda!
- Dolores12 9y ago
  still using miranda-ng with OTR plugin.
- StavrosK 9y ago
  Man, Miranda was so fantastic. Miranda and Winamp are the only two programs I miss from my Windows days.
  - Toast_25 9y ago
    Music Bee is pretty good. Not sure if it's still around though, I mostly listen to music on my phone/youtube nowadays and work doesn't let me download music to my computer.

anc84 9y ago

How do you plan to maintain it? No ads, full privacy, how will you eat? Why is it not free and open-source?

dTal 9y ago
Agreed. The polish, development schedule, and binary-only distribution all say "commercial software", but the lack of license or obvious commercial strategy say "what's going on here". Looking at your comment history (on both your accounts), you say you plan to open-source it, but you're not sure under what license, and you also hope to make money off it but you're not sure how - possibly through a "paid option"? I commend your effort, but until the exact nature of the project is settled, I would expect confusion and reluctance on the part of your potential users. Personally, I would never use a secure messenger I couldn't compile myself. Some previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14778263 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14778263 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15209790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15209790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15081269 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15081269
- amedvednikov 9y ago
  Good points, I'll make the strategy more clear now that I also have a more clear picture.
amedvednikov 9y ago
There is going to be a freemium model. I'm working on setting up a company, this should be done by the end of the month.
- rdl 9y ago
  This sounds great; I'm sure people on HN would be happy to help out if you have any questions.

superkuh 9y ago

> all major platforms No IRC.

amedvednikov 9y ago
Yes IRC! It's just not listed on the home page, I'll fix that.

problems 9y ago

Yeah, just go ahead and use some random closed-source IM tool for your secure messaging - seems like a great idea.

StavrosK 9y ago

Seems to only be 4 MB because it downloads 100 MB of "embedded browser" when you first run it. I smell an Electron.

mi100hael 9y ago
"native" > doctor_evil_quote_fingers.jpg
amedvednikov 9y ago
It's about 40 MB compressed, and it's only used for authentication. The app will work without it. I'm really sad it has to be downloaded, but there's no other way to do authentication. Will switch to Servo once it's ready, it's only ~20 MB.