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I can see an opportunity here for the grid to become owned/operated by the people, not massive corporate greed machines. A house who has excess sells it to nei

I can see an opportunity here for the grid to become owned/operated by the people, not massive corporate greed machines. A house who has excess sells it to neighbors who do not have the solar capacity where neither are connected to the normal grid. Throw some technology into automatically shutting down the generator side every X hours unless its given authorization wirelessly. This foolproofs the root cause of uncontrollable distributed hot lines.

ComputerGuru 9y ago
You still have the back feed issue. Sooner or later, someone is going to have to do maintenance on that new grid you just created.
- tpxl 9y ago
  Disconnect the grid on both ends of the issue, fix it, then reconnect?
  - Caveman_Coder 9y ago
    The problem is that utility company distribution system operators can issue clearances (ensuring a de-energized state) on their systems disconnects, but not on individual home system disconnects. Its not a tough problem to work around though, all the troublemen would have to do is to ensure the line is dead before installing their shorts and grounds, if the line wasn't dead, they'd stop work and figure out which network was backfeeding the line they were trying to work on.
    - tpxl 9y ago
      Sorry for the late reply. Since it is completely distributed, you would need to have an ability to disconnect it pretty much everywhere, and as such could disconnect it locally. Eg. if a new house is being connected, disconnect the adjacent houses, install it, then reconnect (assuming a linear grid between the three houses).
      - Caveman_Coder 9y ago
        Ah, thanks for the reply. I misunderstood your original comment. I thought you were talking about interfacing with existing utility company distribution networks instead of being completely distributed.
jameshart 9y ago
For an insight into how unregulated electrical grids work, google 'favela electrical wiring'.
- dom0 9y ago
  Doesn't look significantly worse than the American power grid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ComputerGuru 9y ago

You still have the back feed issue. Sooner or later, someone is going to have to do maintenance on that new grid you just created.

tpxl 9y ago
Disconnect the grid on both ends of the issue, fix it, then reconnect?
- Caveman_Coder 9y ago
  The problem is that utility company distribution system operators can issue clearances (ensuring a de-energized state) on their systems disconnects, but not on individual home system disconnects. Its not a tough problem to work around though, all the troublemen would have to do is to ensure the line is dead before installing their shorts and grounds, if the line wasn't dead, they'd stop work and figure out which network was backfeeding the line they were trying to work on.
  - tpxl 9y ago
    Sorry for the late reply. Since it is completely distributed, you would need to have an ability to disconnect it pretty much everywhere, and as such could disconnect it locally. Eg. if a new house is being connected, disconnect the adjacent houses, install it, then reconnect (assuming a linear grid between the three houses).
    - Caveman_Coder 9y ago
      Ah, thanks for the reply. I misunderstood your original comment. I thought you were talking about interfacing with existing utility company distribution networks instead of being completely distributed.

jameshart 9y ago

For an insight into how unregulated electrical grids work, google 'favela electrical wiring'.

dom0 9y ago
Doesn't look significantly worse than the American power grid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯