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I'm strongly in favor of legalization, but I still believe Cannabis is dangerous (just like alcohol, tobacco and countless other legal drugs are). It's a well

by lima 9y ago

I'm strongly in favor of legalization, but I still believe Cannabis is dangerous (just like alcohol, tobacco and countless other legal drugs are). It's a well known fact that it can trigger psychosis in susceptible persons and I have even witnessed it happen to a close friend. It also had hugely detrimental effects on some of my weed-smoking friends, to the point that I no longer want to spend time with them since it affected their personality. I also know people who smoke it daily without any (visible) negative effects whatsoever..

blubb-fish 9y ago
it definitely should be used in moderation. regarding psychosis - if you compare weed consumption with number of schizophrenic diagnoses then the idea that weed causes schizophrenia can be easily falsified. but - of course - any psycho active substance can and will impair the mind of somebody consuming it irresponsibly. a lot of people micro dose weed - less than 0.05g per consumption unit - that's not going to cause any issues.
- lima 9y ago
  > if you compare weed consumption with number of schizophrenic diagnoses then the idea that weed causes schizophrenia can be easily falsified That's not how it works. There are many potential triggers for psychosis in general (and schizophrenia in particular), and there are reputable studies which show that cannabis consumption is one of them. > but - of course - any psycho active substance can and will impair the mind of somebody consuming it irresponsibly. I think it's safe to say that even responsible use can have negative effects for some people. Likewise, the claim that micro dosing is not going to cause issues at all is unfounded and dangerous. We simply don't know enough about it to make such claims (enabling scientific research is a big argument for legalization!).
  - sooheon 9y ago
    So what? It is perfectly legal for me to choose to sit in a cubicle and rot away the best years of my life, a fate little better than as clinical psychosis. Let people do the things they want with their own lives.
    - blubb-fish 9y ago
      of course you are downvoted by the cubicle victims here. but bottom line you are right. even alcoholism and liver zirrosis is considered socially more acceptable than admitting you are vaping a bud once a week.
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PixelB 9y ago
>I'm strongly in favor of legalization, but I still believe Cannabis is dangerous (just like alcohol, tobacco and countless other legal drugs are). Oh, well if you "believe" it is dangerous. What's the LD50 on Cannabis vs alcohol, tobacco and countless other legal drugs? How many people die per year from Cannabis use vs other drugs? If you actually look at these questions with an open mind you will see which are really dangerous. >It's a well known fact that it can trigger psychosis in susceptible persons and I have even witnessed it happen to a close friend. It's not a "well known fact" because you saw it happen to someone once, not even mentioning their psychosis could have been triggered by a million different other things. >It also had hugely detrimental effects on some of my weed-smoking friends, to the point that I no longer want to spend time with them since it affected their personality. I also know people who smoke it daily without any (visible) negative effects whatsoever.. All I get out of this is "some of my former friends act differently now so I don't hang out with them", which is like.. most people with or without drugs. I doubt you followed them all around 24-7 to see what their issues were, easier for you to just blame the drugs, as it were.
- pault 9y ago
  Marijuana is absolutely harmful for people with certain mental illnesses. Schizophrenics for example. Since it often manifests at the same age people are experimenting with drugs a person may not know they have it until they get high and have a psychotic break. GP made reasonable claims IMO. Your reaction was over the top.

by lima 9y ago

blubb-fish 9y ago

it definitely should be used in moderation. regarding psychosis - if you compare weed consumption with number of schizophrenic diagnoses then the idea that weed causes schizophrenia can be easily falsified. but - of course - any psycho active substance can and will impair the mind of somebody consuming it irresponsibly. a lot of people micro dose weed - less than 0.05g per consumption unit - that's not going to cause any issues.

lima 9y ago
> if you compare weed consumption with number of schizophrenic diagnoses then the idea that weed causes schizophrenia can be easily falsified That's not how it works. There are many potential triggers for psychosis in general (and schizophrenia in particular), and there are reputable studies which show that cannabis consumption is one of them. > but - of course - any psycho active substance can and will impair the mind of somebody consuming it irresponsibly. I think it's safe to say that even responsible use can have negative effects for some people. Likewise, the claim that micro dosing is not going to cause issues at all is unfounded and dangerous. We simply don't know enough about it to make such claims (enabling scientific research is a big argument for legalization!).
- sooheon 9y ago
  So what? It is perfectly legal for me to choose to sit in a cubicle and rot away the best years of my life, a fate little better than as clinical psychosis. Let people do the things they want with their own lives.
  - blubb-fish 9y ago
    of course you are downvoted by the cubicle victims here. but bottom line you are right. even alcoholism and liver zirrosis is considered socially more acceptable than admitting you are vaping a bud once a week.
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PixelB 9y ago

>I'm strongly in favor of legalization, but I still believe Cannabis is dangerous (just like alcohol, tobacco and countless other legal drugs are). Oh, well if you "believe" it is dangerous. What's the LD50 on Cannabis vs alcohol, tobacco and countless other legal drugs? How many people die per year from Cannabis use vs other drugs? If you actually look at these questions with an open mind you will see which are really dangerous. >It's a well known fact that it can trigger psychosis in susceptible persons and I have even witnessed it happen to a close friend. It's not a "well known fact" because you saw it happen to someone once, not even mentioning their psychosis could have been triggered by a million different other things. >It also had hugely detrimental effects on some of my weed-smoking friends, to the point that I no longer want to spend time with them since it affected their personality. I also know people who smoke it daily without any (visible) negative effects whatsoever.. All I get out of this is "some of my former friends act differently now so I don't hang out with them", which is like.. most people with or without drugs. I doubt you followed them all around 24-7 to see what their issues were, easier for you to just blame the drugs, as it were.

pault 9y ago
Marijuana is absolutely harmful for people with certain mental illnesses. Schizophrenics for example. Since it often manifests at the same age people are experimenting with drugs a person may not know they have it until they get high and have a psychotic break. GP made reasonable claims IMO. Your reaction was over the top.