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Theres an entire market for high-end gaming controllers, from both Microsoft[0] and other manufacturers[1][2]. I had a chance to try out the Elite - they feel

by nikcub 9y ago

Theres an entire market for high-end gaming controllers, from both Microsoft[0] and other manufacturers[1][2]. I had a chance to try out the Elite - they feel great, very solid build. The requirements for gamers might be a bit diff to what a submariner would require - but I could imagine the Navy would prefer the sturdiness of these high end controllers and that gamers prefer wired and low-latency. [0] https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/accessories/controllers/elite-wireless-controller https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/accessories/controllers/... [1] https://scufgaming.com/s/xboxone/ https://scufgaming.com/s/xboxone/ [2] https://www2.razerzone.com/au-en/gaming-controllers/razer-wildcat-xbox-one https://www2.razerzone.com/au-en/gaming-controllers/razer-wi...

gambiting 9y ago
The weak point of the elite controller(and I do have one) is the micro-usb port. I imagine it's completely unacceptable on a submarine that you suddenly lose control of the periscope because the cable is a bit dodgy and doesn't sit in the port properly. Wired X360 controllers have a major advantage here. Also if you drop the Elite controller the dpad and the analog sticks will fly in all directions because they are held by magnets.
- mxfh 9y ago
  What stops anyone from soldering (the USB) and/or hot-glueing those parts on? The tradeoff between customizability and ruggedness is quite easy to fix. In my experience the buttons most likely to break are the LB and RB shoulder ones, since if the controller falls it might take out the switch on direct impact with it's full weight.
  - gambiting 9y ago
    Well, nothing, but my guess is that it needs to work straight out of the box for military use, you can't be hot-gluing buttons and cables on equipment that's used on a submarine.
    - amigoingtodie 9y ago
      Thank you.
    - mxfh 9y ago
      Why not? Have a professional supplier handle the mods to mil-spec and you have a mil-grade product. If it fits the requirements you shouldn't just rule out something just because it sounds DIY. The process might double the price, but still cheaper than anything custom ordered. Glue is a perfectly acceptable solution if done right. Plastic welding is also an option.

by nikcub 9y ago

gambiting 9y ago

The weak point of the elite controller(and I do have one) is the micro-usb port. I imagine it's completely unacceptable on a submarine that you suddenly lose control of the periscope because the cable is a bit dodgy and doesn't sit in the port properly. Wired X360 controllers have a major advantage here. Also if you drop the Elite controller the dpad and the analog sticks will fly in all directions because they are held by magnets.

mxfh 9y ago
What stops anyone from soldering (the USB) and/or hot-glueing those parts on? The tradeoff between customizability and ruggedness is quite easy to fix. In my experience the buttons most likely to break are the LB and RB shoulder ones, since if the controller falls it might take out the switch on direct impact with it's full weight.
- gambiting 9y ago
  Well, nothing, but my guess is that it needs to work straight out of the box for military use, you can't be hot-gluing buttons and cables on equipment that's used on a submarine.
  - amigoingtodie 9y ago
    Thank you.
  - mxfh 9y ago
    Why not? Have a professional supplier handle the mods to mil-spec and you have a mil-grade product. If it fits the requirements you shouldn't just rule out something just because it sounds DIY. The process might double the price, but still cheaper than anything custom ordered. Glue is a perfectly acceptable solution if done right. Plastic welding is also an option.