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Making such claims lightly is (excuse my language) being a fucking asshole. (I know, harsh words. But I needed to get this off my chest) Taking this out on so

by Mz 9y ago

Making such claims lightly is (excuse my language) being a fucking asshole. (I know, harsh words. But I needed to get this off my chest) Taking this out on someone with carefully worded suggestions that only advocate testing is also "being a fucking asshole." Because very frequently the people putting out such info are giving testimony from firsthand experience because they know firsthand what a fucking nightmare it is and if they got better, it only seems the decent thing to do to share info that might help some people with the same diagnosis they had. And then they will run into this kind of ugliness ten thousand times, no matter how carefully they word it.

rocqua 9y ago
I agree that I might be a fucking asshole here, but those sharing anecdotal 'it helped for me' stories aren't helping. They are the exception, their advice still isn't based on verified science and therefor unlikely to work someone else.
- Mz 9y ago
  They are commenting on a public forum. If you think they are full of shit and have no useful information, you are free to ignore it. The fact that it is anecdotal testimony in no way justifies being verbally abusive. Your first paragraph inquires as to whether or not they can substantiate their claim. The next four are gratuitous ugliness. You could have stopped at the end of your first paragraph. They could have replied to that. People could judge for themselves if it merited further investigation or not. You having big feels on the topic is not justification for this kind of behavior. They also likely have very big feels about it too and they aren't intentionally shitting on anyone. People bitch all the time about the lack of a cure or the lack of real alternatives. Then, anytime someone has a story of success with an alternative approach, they get shit all over, dismissed as "that's just anecdotal," called crazy and worse, plus outright told they have no right to participate in the conversation because they can't prove their claims. Maybe if the world were not so full of asshole behavior, we could more rapidly find new solutions by listening to the folks who were told it was hopeless who did not politely agree to suffer and die so that other people could feel like they are smart or some shit.

by Mz 9y ago

rocqua 9y ago

I agree that I might be a fucking asshole here, but those sharing anecdotal 'it helped for me' stories aren't helping. They are the exception, their advice still isn't based on verified science and therefor unlikely to work someone else.

Mz 9y ago
They are commenting on a public forum. If you think they are full of shit and have no useful information, you are free to ignore it. The fact that it is anecdotal testimony in no way justifies being verbally abusive. Your first paragraph inquires as to whether or not they can substantiate their claim. The next four are gratuitous ugliness. You could have stopped at the end of your first paragraph. They could have replied to that. People could judge for themselves if it merited further investigation or not. You having big feels on the topic is not justification for this kind of behavior. They also likely have very big feels about it too and they aren't intentionally shitting on anyone. People bitch all the time about the lack of a cure or the lack of real alternatives. Then, anytime someone has a story of success with an alternative approach, they get shit all over, dismissed as "that's just anecdotal," called crazy and worse, plus outright told they have no right to participate in the conversation because they can't prove their claims. Maybe if the world were not so full of asshole behavior, we could more rapidly find new solutions by listening to the folks who were told it was hopeless who did not politely agree to suffer and die so that other people could feel like they are smart or some shit.