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FTA: "“Right away we had to figure out how willing we were to collaborate with Twain, and tell him, potentially, when he was wrong,” Philip said. “... He [Twain

FTA: "“Right away we had to figure out how willing we were to collaborate with Twain, and tell him, potentially, when he was wrong,” Philip said. “... He [Twain] can, on one page, seem progressive well beyond his years—he can seem like he’s talking right out of 2017, or 2050, even—and then the very next page he’ll say something that makes you smack yourself on the forehead and say, ‘I can’t work with this guy.’ ”" Ugh. Is anyone else put off by the modern-day collaborator, based upon this article?

shkkmo 9y ago
Yeah, it seemed like they wrote their own story loosely based on his notes and then used the deceptive "by Mark Twain" label for extra sales, especially given that they put him in as a character. It seems like "based on a bedtime story by Mark Twain" would have been much fairer.
rdiddly 9y ago
Yes. First of all, if you "can't work with" the guy, maybe start by writing your own story instead of stealing his. If you're getting involved with a Mark Twain project, you have to know ahead of time that you're going back 150 years to a time when slavery was still a thing, racism against the natives was still prevalent, etc., and on top of it, Twain was at times trying to be intentionally provocative even in that environment. You either take that body of work and look at it in its historical context, or you stay the heck away from it. Sounds like they couldn't resist the urge to sanitize the unsavory parts of history.
- mikeash 9y ago
  What's the opposite of plagiarism? If there's isn't a term for it, maybe we should coin one just for this.
  - grzm 9y ago
    > What's the opposite of plagiarism? Original authorship? Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at? (It wouldn't be the first time :)
    - diggernet 9y ago
      I'm guessing they are asking about "attributing your words to others" rather than "claiming another's words as your own".
      - grzm 9y ago
        Ah. That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. Edit to add: Forgery seems in the ballpark, but doesn't feel quite right.
        mikeash 9y ago
        The clarification is correct, just for the record. I agree that "forgery" doesn't quite seem right for this, although it's close. If they had claimed to have an original Twain work that was being published unedited, but was in fact a new creation, then it would fit, but they're not really hiding the fact that it's been altered.... "Appropriation" and "misrepresentation" both fit, but are overly general.
majormajor 9y ago
Yes, the best quote from the whole article is, about exactly that sort of misguided holier-than-thou squeamishness: "The novelist and essayist David Bradley, Jr., has written and lectured widely about Twain and race. “Was he a racist? Wasn’t he a racist? It’s sort of amusing,” Bradley, who is black, told me recently. “That question isn’t asked of most other American writers, and I think that’s because Twain actually did something about race, and most of them didn’t.”"

shkkmo 9y ago

Yeah, it seemed like they wrote their own story loosely based on his notes and then used the deceptive "by Mark Twain" label for extra sales, especially given that they put him in as a character. It seems like "based on a bedtime story by Mark Twain" would have been much fairer.

rdiddly 9y ago

Yes. First of all, if you "can't work with" the guy, maybe start by writing your own story instead of stealing his. If you're getting involved with a Mark Twain project, you have to know ahead of time that you're going back 150 years to a time when slavery was still a thing, racism against the natives was still prevalent, etc., and on top of it, Twain was at times trying to be intentionally provocative even in that environment. You either take that body of work and look at it in its historical context, or you stay the heck away from it. Sounds like they couldn't resist the urge to sanitize the unsavory parts of history.

mikeash 9y ago
What's the opposite of plagiarism? If there's isn't a term for it, maybe we should coin one just for this.
- grzm 9y ago
  > What's the opposite of plagiarism? Original authorship? Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at? (It wouldn't be the first time :)
  - diggernet 9y ago
    I'm guessing they are asking about "attributing your words to others" rather than "claiming another's words as your own".
    - grzm 9y ago
      Ah. That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. Edit to add: Forgery seems in the ballpark, but doesn't feel quite right.
      - mikeash 9y ago
        The clarification is correct, just for the record. I agree that "forgery" doesn't quite seem right for this, although it's close. If they had claimed to have an original Twain work that was being published unedited, but was in fact a new creation, then it would fit, but they're not really hiding the fact that it's been altered.... "Appropriation" and "misrepresentation" both fit, but are overly general.

majormajor 9y ago

Yes, the best quote from the whole article is, about exactly that sort of misguided holier-than-thou squeamishness: "The novelist and essayist David Bradley, Jr., has written and lectured widely about Twain and race. “Was he a racist? Wasn’t he a racist? It’s sort of amusing,” Bradley, who is black, told me recently. “That question isn’t asked of most other American writers, and I think that’s because Twain actually did something about race, and most of them didn’t.”"