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Lots of this stuff is so US focused. Any European nation for one will let you reverse engineer stuff you buy or download to your own heart's content in the safe

by DCKing 9y ago

Lots of this stuff is so US focused. Any European nation for one will let you reverse engineer stuff you buy or download to your own heart's content in the safety of your own home. I expect many countries in the world are civilized like that.

dannyobrien 9y ago
Almost every country, with the exception of Israel, has implemented the anti-DRM provisions of the WIPO Copyright Treaty using similar language to the United States, or worse. In the European countries, it's embodied in the European Copyright Directive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive#Technological_protection_measures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive#Technologi... That's one of the reason why we argued so strongly that the W3C should include a covenant. Even if EFF continues to successfully obtain temporary exemptions from the DMCA in the tri-annual review, we can't do that for security researchers or lobby for similar fair use exemptions in every country.
- DCKing 9y ago
  You're right. I've done some digging, and some similar language has been implemented at least in the Netherlands (for the Dutch, this is article 29a of our Auteurswet). Although it's somewhat vague, it does bum me out. It seems the Dutch implementation has not been enforced all that often (mostly to combat game console mod chips), but it has been used to fight security researchers publishing stuff on security weaknesses in our public transport RFID cards... Thought we were better than that.
  - noir_lord 9y ago
    It's a terrain, some points are higher than others. Not convinced any country isn't underwater though.
- versteegen 9y ago
  New Zealand isn't a party to that WIPO treaties [1], but it does have a law implementing restrictions on circumventing Technological protection measures (TPM) [2]. But unlike the DMCA, the NZ law lists lots of exceptions that allow you to circumvent TPMs. In fact it says "Nothing in this Act prevents any person from using a TPM circumvention device to exercise a permitted act under Part 3." Part 3 of the Copyright 1994 [3] is the (very long) part that lists everything you can do with a copyrighted work, including the NZ equivalent of fair use, research, education, archiving, backup, decompiling software, etc, etc. [1] http://www.copyright.org.nz/international.php http://www.copyright.org.nz/international.php [2] http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2008/0027/latest/DLM1122722.html http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2008/0027/latest/D... [3] http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1994/0143/latest/DLM345634.html#DLM345958 http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1994/0143/latest/D...
mfukar 9y ago
> download to your own heart's content in the safety of your own home Nein.

by DCKing 9y ago

dannyobrien 9y ago

Almost every country, with the exception of Israel, has implemented the anti-DRM provisions of the WIPO Copyright Treaty using similar language to the United States, or worse. In the European countries, it's embodied in the European Copyright Directive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive#Technological_protection_measures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Directive#Technologi... That's one of the reason why we argued so strongly that the W3C should include a covenant. Even if EFF continues to successfully obtain temporary exemptions from the DMCA in the tri-annual review, we can't do that for security researchers or lobby for similar fair use exemptions in every country.

DCKing 9y ago
You're right. I've done some digging, and some similar language has been implemented at least in the Netherlands (for the Dutch, this is article 29a of our Auteurswet). Although it's somewhat vague, it does bum me out. It seems the Dutch implementation has not been enforced all that often (mostly to combat game console mod chips), but it has been used to fight security researchers publishing stuff on security weaknesses in our public transport RFID cards... Thought we were better than that.
- noir_lord 9y ago
  It's a terrain, some points are higher than others. Not convinced any country isn't underwater though.
versteegen 9y ago
New Zealand isn't a party to that WIPO treaties [1], but it does have a law implementing restrictions on circumventing Technological protection measures (TPM) [2]. But unlike the DMCA, the NZ law lists lots of exceptions that allow you to circumvent TPMs. In fact it says "Nothing in this Act prevents any person from using a TPM circumvention device to exercise a permitted act under Part 3." Part 3 of the Copyright 1994 [3] is the (very long) part that lists everything you can do with a copyrighted work, including the NZ equivalent of fair use, research, education, archiving, backup, decompiling software, etc, etc. [1] http://www.copyright.org.nz/international.php http://www.copyright.org.nz/international.php [2] http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2008/0027/latest/DLM1122722.html http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2008/0027/latest/D... [3] http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1994/0143/latest/DLM345634.html#DLM345958 http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1994/0143/latest/D...

mfukar 9y ago

> download to your own heart's content in the safety of your own home Nein.