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I am so mixed about this. In principle, this is a terrible idea, and I share many of the concerns in this thread -- I am not a fan of DRM. But as a consumer/end

by Osmium 9y ago

I am so mixed about this. In principle, this is a terrible idea, and I share many of the concerns in this thread -- I am not a fan of DRM. But as a consumer/end-user, I'd much prefer a standard DRM over Flash/Silverlight any day of the week. The real question is how we get rid of DRM in the long term. Piracy isn't going away. Hopefully content owners will one day realize the economic cost of implementing DRM isn't worth its return, and only serves to alienate paying customers. I imagine it might take some years for them to realize this however.

nebabyte 9y ago
> The real question is how we get rid of DRM in the long term And your answer is "embrace it in the short term"? It's this 'give them an inch' bullshit that's been fucking the consumer in the ass for countless years. > Hopefully content owners will one day realize the economic cost of implementing DRM isn't worth its return "Maybe if we wish on marshmallows and rainbows, this statement will come true this time!" > I imagine it might take some years for them to realize this however Search for the first time that was uttered, then look at the calendar.
- Osmium 9y ago
  I don't disagree with you, but the average consumer just doesn't know enough to care. We don't have the power to not 'give them an inch' until the consumer is educated, and pretending we do isn't getting us anywhere. Simply put, we have no leverage, the W3C has no leverage. Consumer education is the most powerful tool we have here, which is why the EFF etc. is so important, but this is necessarily a long term strategy. > "Maybe if we wish on marshmallows and rainbows, this statement will come true this time!" Well it worked with music... You can now buy DRM-free music in lots of places. The music industry realized it just wasn't worth the investment to insist on DRM, and it was actually harming them (consumers were becoming confused, didn't want to buy music not knowing if it'd work on their next device, etc.)
TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
Companies creating copyrighted works will always try to impose DRM. The best that can be done is make circumventing it legal and easy.

by Osmium 9y ago

nebabyte 9y ago

> The real question is how we get rid of DRM in the long term And your answer is "embrace it in the short term"? It's this 'give them an inch' bullshit that's been fucking the consumer in the ass for countless years. > Hopefully content owners will one day realize the economic cost of implementing DRM isn't worth its return "Maybe if we wish on marshmallows and rainbows, this statement will come true this time!" > I imagine it might take some years for them to realize this however Search for the first time that was uttered, then look at the calendar.

Osmium 9y ago
I don't disagree with you, but the average consumer just doesn't know enough to care. We don't have the power to not 'give them an inch' until the consumer is educated, and pretending we do isn't getting us anywhere. Simply put, we have no leverage, the W3C has no leverage. Consumer education is the most powerful tool we have here, which is why the EFF etc. is so important, but this is necessarily a long term strategy. > "Maybe if we wish on marshmallows and rainbows, this statement will come true this time!" Well it worked with music... You can now buy DRM-free music in lots of places. The music industry realized it just wasn't worth the investment to insist on DRM, and it was actually harming them (consumers were becoming confused, didn't want to buy music not knowing if it'd work on their next device, etc.)

TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago

Companies creating copyrighted works will always try to impose DRM. The best that can be done is make circumventing it legal and easy.